I stumbled across this web site a few days ago. The site creator has some
great information there, but the section that lists "common problems" IMO
make the W210 sound like junk. It almost sounds as if all of the cars will
have these issues and you can expect to fix them during your ownership of
the car. The one in particular is the one about the head gasket on the
1996-1997 E320 with the inline 6 engine. It says you can pretty much expect
to change the head gasket every 70,000-100,000 miles. Does anyone find this
to be true?
I have a 2001 W210 V-8 and haven't expereinced any of those issues (yet),
except the sunroof rattle.
The first paragraph on the site reads:
"The vast majority of W210 owners have very few or
only minor problems with their Benzes.
Most of the issues these cars have are minor and
are better described as irritations.
Some the issues are far more serious, but are
Heres a list of some of the common and
not-so-common problems with the W210 E-class."
I find that pretty clear.
That, itself would be clear, if this wasn't written below it:
The head gasket is the Achilles' Heel of the otherwise superb M104 3.2L engine in the 1996 & 1997 E320. The head gasket tends to develop a leak every 70,000 to 100,000 miles. Usually the leak is visible on the outside of the motor. It's important to fix this to avoid mixing coolant & oil. Plan to spend about $1100-$2000 to have this replaced, depending on the shop.
size=2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Jeff =wrote:<BR>>> I
stumbled across this web site a few days ago. The<BR>>> site creator
has some<BR>>> great information there, but the section that
lists<BR>>> "common problems" IMO<BR>>> make the W210 sound like
junk. It almost sounds as<BR>>> if all of the cars will<BR>>>
have these issues and you can expect to fix them<BR>>> during your
ownership of<BR>>> the car. <BR>> ...<BR>>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.eclassbenz.com/node/17 "><FONT face=Arial size=2>http://www.eclassbenz.com/node/17 </FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> <BR>> The first paragraph on the site reads:<BR>>
"The vast majority of W210 owners have very few or<BR>> only minor
problems with their Benzes.<BR>> Most of the issues these cars have are
minor and<BR>> are better described as irritations.<BR>> Some
the issues are far more serious, but are<BR>> relatively
rare.<BR>> Here's a list of some of the common and<BR>> not-so-common problems with the W210 E-class."<BR>> <BR>>
I find that pretty clear.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Juergen</FONT></BODY></HTML>
I understand an improved head gasket is available. Plus Benz recommends to
fill the oil 1 qt less to reduce the oil leaking headgasket problem. This I
find unbelievable. My own E320 w/104 engine has a small head gasket leak
with 65K mi on the car.
The rusting spring perch is a genuine problem and safety issue that Benz so
far has ignored. Same with the wire harness problems of the early 90's 124s.
Actually, his site listings are quite accurate. If you collate
comments from 210
owners, you get an idea the potential for problems in the areas
cited. If you
browse MBWorld, Benzworld, MercedesForums, as well as UK forum(s), you
see a pattern. Most of those listed on eclassbenz are supported by
issued by MB.
So....in the end, you reference the fact that you have an 01 w210 and
not experienced *any* of the problems listed. That's great. But
that, by no
means, invalidates those who have.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I should state the reason I ask is that I am
possibly in the market for an E320 for my girlfriend to drive and really
like the smoothness of the inline 6. When I read that I was a little
"It says you can pretty much expect to change the head gasket every
Perhaps it's more like 150K miles before the aluminum head and the iron
block's differing coefficients of expansion kill the head gasket.
Remember, an in line six is a relatively long motor so a small
difference in expansion gets compounded.
Nice, smooth engine.
The site is pretty balanced in its discussion, no car is perfect - some
are just better than others.
"-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at NoHamorSpamcomcast.net">
wrote in message
I am not so sure about 150K. I had a straight six in my 300SE. I dove
it 260K with no head gasket, valve stem seals replaced twice (or was
it three times?) without removing the head. Never replaced the timing
chain (had it checked every 50K or so). Only complaint was that I
would use a quart of oil in ~1500 miles if I was doing high speed
(80+) long distance highway driving, but I am told that is within the
normal consumption range for these engines.
It was still going moderately strong when I sold it. I would buy
another (if they were available). I am happy with the E430 I replaced
it with, but the difference in weight and density took some getting
used to :)
I believe this is the same basic motor (different multi-valvetrain
head) as the W210?
"-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at NoHamorSpamcomcast.net"> wrote in
The E320 104 engine is powerful and smooth. My E320 with 65,000 miles has an
external oil leak from the headgasket. It's a design/material fault.
My '87 300TD had over 270,000 miles with no gasket leaks or problems when I
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