Hello. I am a former Mitsubishi owner. I had a bad experience with my car.
I don't post often, but if a potential owner asks about an issue with the
model I purchased, I occasionally respond with answers based on my
responsible ownership history.
However, most, if not all, of my posts get cancelled before they are
propagated to at least some news servers.
If you are considering the purchase of a Mitsubishi, and have asked for
feedback in this forum, please do not necessarily consider the responses in
this forum comprehensive or representative.
Look in any consumer reports. Thousands of owners have the same issues that
That is curious, since this is a NON-moderated group. You only have to
check the occassional spam or virus ladden post to confirm that.
It is also curious as to why you don't even mention what Mits you owned
or even hinted as to what problems you've had with the car.
In other words, I smelleth me a troll...
I thought it was curious also, but on more than one occasion, I have posted
comments relating to my personal experiences (when such input was openly
sought by other posters). I have seen them propagated to news servers and
then seen them disappear. No foul language, no slander, just criticism of
what in my experience was an inferior product.
Since you asked, I had a 98 Eclipse. Bought it new and sold it in 2002.
Worst car I ever owned.
Drove approximately 20-22K a year. No racing, no quick braking unless a
deer was in front of me. I replaced the rotors 4 times.
I had the radio replaced twice (once under warranty).
I had numerous non-radio-related electronic problems.
The engine blew at 68K.
In my opinion, these are significant issues that would dissuade me from ever
buying another Mitsubishi product. Ever. Why on earth would I troll an
automotive group? What could I possibly have to gain from that? It's not
like I am rooting for one brand to succeed or fail. It's not like its the
Eagles vs. Cowboys or anything. I just think the facts are important. And
if answering questions and relating the huge inconvenience and expense that
was associated with my purchase of a Mitsubishi product can help one person
avoid similar problems, then I will feel a bit better. Don't take it
personally....if you own a Mitsubishi, I certainly hope that yours is far
more reliable and turns out to be a better investment than mine was.
Oh okay. Consider the snide comments I made revoked. Believe it or not,
there have been one or two trolls lately haunting this newsgroup.
And I am honestly kind of surprised at the problems you've stated. I
have a 1995 Eagle Talon, and the most I've had to do to it, outside of
typical maintance, is replace the water pump and the 02 sensors.
Although there is a problem with my LCD read out on my radio, but a
quick tap on the crystal clears it right up. And after 165,000 miles I
think that is pretty damn good. Heck, it's even still on the original
clutch, and by the feel it can still go another 15,000 miles.
I would wonder about the brakes though. It seems like maybe they were
giving you a cruddy set of rotors. I got a realy crappy pair once, I
believe they were Guardians, and they only lasted me around 20,000 miles
before I had to have them turned. Went with top of the line after that.
And I have never had a problem since.
Sorry you've had such a terrible time with your DSM. I can say with
confidence that most people that I have talked to claim DSM cars are as
rock solid and as reliable as a Civic.
No problem Chris. It takes a quality person to say that in a NG.
You have had great luck. And the year that your talon was made was a great
year for that car. I actually considered buying a Talon rather than an
Eclipse, but did not because it was the Talon's last mfg. year.
I had them replaced by a dealer with DSM parts. I had them replaced by one
specialist after another....using the highest-quality pads and rotors
available. At one point, my mechanic did not charge me to replace my pads
with higher-quality (best quality) parts when the pads failed within two
weeks. The system was designed poorly, and he had seen many other
Chryslers/Mitsubishis with similar problems.
Great. But I would never drive a Honda. They run forever, but the
experience is not what anyone would call "involving" or even "interesting"
for that matter (with the possible exception of the S2000, and I have not
driven a new V6 Accord...).
if your posts are being dropped, address that with the firm who handles
your news server.
as to consumer reports...there are several areas where i am total shock over
the nonsense that is presented as data. i have found them on multiple
occasions to be as wrong as they could be.
if you are comfortable with their advise, that's fine but be aware that they
make a lot of errors.
I will look into it. Just that it has happened on a number of occasions
made me curious. I should have known, but did not know that this group was
I can understand a sense of frustration with Consumer Reports. Turns out
that the issues that were listed as concerns (typical problems, engine
reliability, etc.) cited in the issue that I did not read before buying my
Eclipse actually were problematic on my Mitsubishi. When 20% or 25% of
people report serious engine flaws within 4-5 years and you don't have them,
you are still in the majority. Good, you should be when you dump $20K. I
was one of the minority who had those problems. Big ones. And there are
lots of others who appear to have independently reported problems of similar
magnitude. You got a gem. I got a lemon. CR makes errors, so does
Mitsubishi. But CRs don't cost me five figures.
Well. I beleive it's the Mitsubishi's built in America which turn out
so bad. Go figure.
I live in New Zealand, and here we get cars which are either built
here, or imported from Japan. I have an '89 Mitsubishi Galant 1.8L
with 367,500kms on the clock, and it's still going strong. Only major
problem since I've had it was the alternator failing. I guess it all
depends on the build quality of the car.
Taumarunui, New Zealand
Remove the obvious spamblock to reply via e-mail.
phillip, the car he is referring to is a model that was associated with a
joint venture with chrysler.
if you go to www.magnusmotorsports.com and look at the tech article on
crankwalk theory it will explain what's up with the 7 bolt u.s. version of
the 4g63. my motor fell victim to this as well.
the brake problems he's suffering with point to the single piston brakes
spec'ed on the front wheel drive cars. they warp rotors like it was a design
i didn't see jcf mention any problems with his wheels....there is an active
class action regarding soft rims that are unusually prone to damage.
the ass kicker is the crankwalk issue....there are a lot of cars now being
effected enough where there is a yahoo group for guys who are swapping
engines, putting the earlier 6 bolt 4g63 in their second generation cars.
i spoke to a mechanic friend today who has a shop that specializes in
japanese vehicles. he said he's doing one or two eclipses per week
the eclipse is a great car for a hobbyist who wants to build a sports or
drag car but it has some serious design and quality issues.
that being said, i love mine but there is little that is modified or
Excellent post... You have singularly provided more information (in one NG
post) on this issue than I was able to find when the problem was happening
on my vehicle.
My mechanic also had a large number of Eclipses coming in.
Too bad one of them was mine.
Oh well...thanks for the education. It's always appreciated by those who
are passionate about driving. :)
I don't disagree with you. If my car had been made in Japan as opposed to
in Illinois, I wonder whether I would have had the problems in the first
place...not because America makes bad cars, but because the joint
venture/partnership at the time my vehicle was made was shared with
Chrysler. When my vehicle was made, Chrysler made cars that were beautiful
but mechanically unreliable. Hence, my issues.
Despite the fact that I think there is an "America is bad" tone to this
letter that should be rebutted, I refuse to dignify that.
But there is a lot of truth in your statement, and you're right, it all
relates to build quality, and also in my related components above. That
said, I think the issue is with the parent corporation rather than an
indictment of the American auto industry in general, and certainly not
America in general. Nissans made in Tennessee (one of our states) are often
referred to as having bulletproof engines. I almost bought one based on a
reflex reaction to my Mitsubishi experience. So not all Japanese cars made
in America are bad cars, nor do they have inherent flaws just waiting to
surface because they are made in America. That's another NG topic, and we
have diverted too much from the original topic already.
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