jaywalking did you know that, in the quest for more speed camera's, they errected one at a spot where sooene comitted suicide by jumping off a bridge it was a road death on the statistics but it didn't involve a motor vehicle when there is a seperate list of figures for when it is the pedestrians fault then you will see that the figures are a lot lower you can spew any amount of facts to keep the "road deaths avarage 10 per week" but wheedle out those not caused by the driver and they will dramaticly drop to keep it in perspective, list the number of people who died IN a vehcile as passengers or drivers