Cool car with street cred

Part of the silly Toyota Superstrut suspension. Any of the parts makers who make uprated suspension parts for the ST20*=20 series cars need to buy the front strut bodies from Toyota themselves.=20 Nobody makes the strut bodies. Not even KYB who make the rest of the=20 toyota badget shocks. Thye just supply cartridges for superstrut cars.

An idea of the cost of figure 8 etc on later Toyota GT4 models.

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"Drive off and start listening. The ST205 superstrut suspension is a=20 superior and advanced design, but does suffer from one major problem.=20 After approximately 60-80k miles, there are two main bushes that wear=20 out on each side, though not usually together. They are at the chassis=20 end of the front track-rod, and also on a figure-of-eight piece=20 attaching this rod to the suspension strut. You can tell there is=20 something wrong by the characterictic clunks over potholes/bumps etc -=20 it is a deep, structural sort of clunk rather than something rattling.=20 Often it is more pronounced when turning sharply, and may be evident=20 when first turning the wheel after the car has been parked for a while.=20 This will cost over =A3500 per side to fix with parts from Toyota, though= =20 one of the guys in the GT4 Owner's Club UK does refurbish the parts for=20 less."

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Nice handling fast and lighter than other GT4 models, but pricier for=20 it.

--=20 Carl Robson Audio stream:

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Elder
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Where in my post have I told an untruth?

Subaru's are tacky, they are built very poorly I used to work at avonmouth docks for my sins you try taking a door panel off one and see if it will go back on without either snapping plastic securing lugs, or snapping the cheap plastic panels themselves.

They are also mostly driven by nutters who think speed is everything and will promptly try to show you how fast they are at any given moment, although as with any marque of car there are enthusiasts who drive them with respect.

People/Thieves know they are very quick cars and that they "were" very easy to nick, so enough have ended up round lamposts or in people front rooms.

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They also have massive spoilers and stripes, so please show me where my mis-education lies? (except my spelling :) )

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Ronny

The main reason I said they were unreliable is due to the owners running stupid amounts of boost and the engines self distruct. Out of the box and driven moderatly I would imagine they last last as well as anything else.

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Ronny

FWIW, we used to have a Subaru/SAAB garage just down the road from here (miles from anywhere) which specialised in sales of Subarus to Farmers. It closed down some years ago, and the local independent took on servicing them. The owner curses Subarus and reckons the engines are shit. I certainly notice that he gets horribly regular deliveries of crated Subaru engines.

I thought of buying a Legacy a few years back, but didn't when Mick gave me the list of woes that he had seen. Personally I can't stand the Impreza, it's a horrid claustrophobic little car.

Reply to
Steve Firth

Cool, that just makes it even funnier then :)

Reply to
Lordy.UK

Ahh

Reply to
magicman

good :)

Reply to
magicman

The main problem with it was everything. Never boiled the battery.

Fraser

Reply to
Fraser Johnston

Where do you get this "tacky" from ?

"It's also about quality and precision, if he requires a "fast" car that is built like shit I would have pointed him towards a Subaru or a Lancer"

Thats what I said.

Reply to
Ronny

And it's still complete bollocks.

Imprezas and Evos just have cheap and crappy cockpits, that's because all the development money goes on the engineering rather than the tactile surfaces...

Reply to
Lordy.UK

"mits and Subaru are just real tacky with big spoilers and stripes"

That is what you said. That's where I got it from. Are you senile?

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Sandy Nuts

No as in my original post I stated s**te build quality then said they are tacky, which they are, my post indicated the interiors if you read the post correctly, I have driven perhaps 100+ Subaru's and 30-40 evo's around the VIII era and all were substandard and had tons of rejections due to parts not fitting correctly.

I also worked for Walon Lexus/Toyota fitting sat navs and alarm systems to new vehicles and I can assure you it was a breath of fresh air working in there.

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Ronny

Subarus are as well screwed together as anything from Krautland. Probably better than most Mercs, Audis and BMWs.

Fraser

Reply to
Fraser Johnston

Yeah, but Toyota use 20 screws when some velcro and a spring clip would do.

I know, I've had one. And they still sometimes creak after a few miles.

Reply to
Elder

Yeah ok :)

Reply to
Ronny

I have no idea what the f*ck you have been reading. I said the *tactile* surfaces are the flaw in those particular cars, because the development money went on engineering rather than soft dashboard material or poncy looking trim.

The Germans do not have a car that I can think of offhand that is remotely in the same vein.

Exactly; the tactile surfaces. That's where they have spent their money. Not on making bombproof engines, trick diffs, et al.

Berate an Impreza or Evo for its soundproofing and shutlines is just a

*tad* on the ridiculous side.
Reply to
Lordy.UK

It's good that you finally accepted that :-)

Reply to
DanTXD

Only if you like noisy diesel estates.

Reply to
DervMan

Sometimes uncool stuff is cool.

Reply to
DervMan

Oddly enough... the local Skoda / Subaru dealer is pretty similar. "If you want something turbo and all wheel drive, don't get the Subaru, get the Octavia" was the word a few years ago.

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DervMan

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