Corsa C Turbo Conversion

Own a 2003 1.8 SRi and noticed Cossvaux

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offer a 230 BHP turbo conversion kit for £3900. This seems a massive increase (103 BHP) for that kind of money and puts the soon to be released 1.6 turbo VXR to shame.

Anyone tell me if the present suspension/gearbox/clutch/brakes could cope with all the extra power though? Is it true that 200 BHP is about the limit for fwd cars?

Anyone know of anyone who's had this kind of work done?

OK, the Corsa might not be to everyones taste but but on a decent bodykit and I personally think it IS a potentially good looking motor!

Saw a Turbo'd Corsa C 2.0 in this months Max Power the owner reckoned it was putting out 237BHP and 0 to 60 in 5.0 seconds - fine looking modification job too, the donor car was a shitty little 1.0 Breeze or something like that, guy reckoned the whole mod job cost just over £3k with the car included.

Any sensible comments appreciated!

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Lenny Maclean
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5.0 seconds?

I *very* much doubt that.

6, possibly.

A 240 bhp Corsa just wouldn't have the poke, or the traction to do a 5.0 sec

0-60.

There are Porsche 911's out there which weigh not much more than a Corsa, have 231 bhp, and don't do 0-60 in 5.0. Like, um, mine.

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Pete M

Damn i didnt know i had a lil brother :)

best advise i can give you, sell the C and buy a Corsa B. find one arse ended cav/cally turbo for 6-800 quid for a good runner sell the bits you dont need to buy some tasties like suspension and voila an instant 200 bhp corsa. a few tweaks here and there and your seeing 280 bhp quite easily with more to come depending on pocket depth.

reason i say get the corsa B is for ease of conversion all the conversion parts can be had off the shelf and you can fit a let in a weekend

HTH

Rob Regional Co-ord

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need any more advice get as at the above

Reply to
Rob

Sir, you should get out more and have the correct wheels driven...

Justin.

Reply to
Justin Cole

But i bet with a nice chip and bit of effort the VXR will make that, and have a drivetrain/tranny to cope.

My mate has the same as you, but 04 reg, and it wheelspins insanely as it is. With 230bhp i'd imagine 1st and 2nd gear would be about unusable with any anger at all... Also, I think it would all need uprating, badly.

They can look ok, think they need to be subtler tho, no bodykit, Irmscher splitter and skirts, 17's or 18's, blacked out, Irmscher twin round back box.

I'd guess it cost more than that, and never does 60 in 5.0, thats too quick for a FWD, and moreso for a Corsa.

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DanTXD

You honestly trust Vauxhall to give us a decent turbo'd lump after their last pig eared attempt the Z20LET?

I presume this is where the bulk of the 4k is involved hence get a B more availability both new and secondhand

200 bhp is more than ample in a FWD motor especially with a blower attached (thinks back to the RST i had and shudders)

it really shouldnt do that my cav with 150 horse spins 1st as any motor can and i only get a slight chirp in second any crap rubber dodgy suspension gen?

Nova Turbo far better looking IMHO who cares what other people think its your car your going to have to live with it

ah Max Power funny i've raced a few big power max power cars always claiming more horses than mine and never failed to come out on top must be the weight of all the fibre glass/stereos/stick on tat :)

Reply to
Rob

GM own Vauxhall.

GM own Saab.

Saab do turbocharging very very well.

Reply to
Tim S Kemp

In a word, I doubt it for both questions. My old Saab 900 had close to 200BHP in an FWD car 20 years ago. Handled excellently.

200bhp is not the limit for FWD cars, as Saab and Alfa have proved. It is possible to have a Maptun tuned Saab 9000 Aero at over 400bhp, and it handles very well. You just need to alter the handling.

But just because a 9000 Aero, and a Corsa are both from GM brands does not mean the Corsa will handle as well at 200bhp as the Aero will at

400.
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Sleeker GT Phwoar

I could probably spend that on shocks, springs, bushes and brake=20 upgrades, not even buyign the turbo or the EMS changes needed to handle=20 decent fueling.

--=20 "Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf" The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.

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Reply to
Sleeker GT Phwoar

And Saab do FWD very well. GM also own Scoobydoo too (in part atleast), and they aren't bad at playing with snailshells.

Reply to
Sleeker GT Phwoar

Nope. Volvo S80 280bhp, there's some mad front drive yank V8s out there, plenty of modded stuff running 400+.

Reply to
Tim S Kemp

Not too bad, but saab / volvo are the masters of reliable turbomotors.

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Tim S Kemp

But your Corsa is worth £6000. Sell your Corsa, add the £3900 on, and you now have £10,000.

You can now purchase a Subaru Impreza WRX STi, and you get a *much* *much* better car, 4x4, 280bhp, more reliability etc. etc. Or you could just about purchase a Civic Type-R. Or a Leon Cupra R. Or an Astra Coupe Turbo. Or almost a brand new Clio 182. Or any number of a rillion other cars, all of which would be *vastly* better than a dodgy Corsa !

They couldn't. So add on a couple of grand to the above figures.

A little over 200bhp is about the limit for FWD cars *designed* *to* *take*

*it*.

If you just bolt 200bhp onto an average shopping trolley, then you'll end up with a big disaster. I'd say 150bhp was a more realistic limit.

Lots of fools over at

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I'd imagine :)

Not really. My car looks about 1,000 times nicer, and it cost less than the above. And it's cheaper to insure, and can cope with it's FWD 210bhp because it was designed to do so.

It wasn't. The end. You can't get below 6 seconds in a FWD car without cheating (ie, removing the rear suspension etc.).

But the end result was still a Corsa. There are any number of small cars that *aren't* shit - so why would you choose a Corsa ? See my list above for starters.

Sell it right now, whilst it's worth £6000. Buy a good car ! Civic Type-R is a fine choice if you're starting out with a hot hatch. I hate the revvy engine, but you'll love it.

Reply to
Nom

Saab used to do lots of things very well, but now they don't bother - they just use other people's stuff instead (which is a decision mostly made by GM bean counters, but that's a side issue).

GM using Saabs turbo knowledge is now unlikely to the extreme. Whereas Saab using GM's turbo knowledge is likely to three digits of percentage.

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Lordy.UK

Oh yes, agreed, except apart from the heads, most Saab turbo motors from now on, will be either gm 4 pots, gm 6 pots, or scooby flat 4's. The good old Camchained Saab B series is dead, the latest Saabs use a GM cambelt based engine.

Reply to
Sleeker GT Phwoar

In short, no. THe clutch and gearbox definitely can't and even if they could, I reckon you'd twist the driveshafts.

No for the right chassis.

If you want a 200BHP car, buy one designed to cope with it in the first place. For £3900 you could buy several Rover 620 Ti's.

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Conor

You could a Saab 9000 turbo/Carlsson for that, and be in at the lower=20 end of Aero ownership, electrically adjusted, heated, leather clad,=20 recarro racing seats, Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

--=20 "Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf" The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar

Kind of puts the £3900 pricetag into perspective a bit.

Reply to
Conor

=20

You can buy a Saab 9000 turbo from arround =A31500 with leather and toys,= =20 less without. Carlssons not much more, for about =A36k on top, Maptun will up an take=20 you upto a reliable 400BHP and beyond.

Saab 9000 turbos on Auto trader at the moment.

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Don't ignore the high mile ones, as long as the box is solid it will be=20 fine. Service history makes a huge difference to the life span, but not to the=20 price. 2.0's are harder to work on, 2.3's are smoother, easier to work=20 on, and more powerful.

CD models aren't as popular as CS/CC models even though the boot is=20 huge, it isn't a patch on the hatchback sizes with the seat down. Body=20 is stiffer though, makes a slightly better trackday car.

If it is an Aero with an autobox, it isn't an aero engine, it is a=20 standard 2.3 turbo, with aero trim and interior. The standard autobox=20 doesn't reliably work with the torque of the aero engine.

--=20 "Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf" The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.

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Reply to
Sleeker GT Phwoar

I doubt it cost that little. To swap the 2.0 lump in my Omega for a 2.0 Turbo lump I'm looking at £4.5k for the engine, the conversion bits and labour to fit... And that's a standard engine swap over, no tuning parts whatsoever

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Andy Connolly

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