OT: phones (mobile)

It doesn't have 3G, which is kind of essential for a mobile internet tablet, it can't send or receive MMS messages or act as a modem for your laptop.

Which means it's a pretty useles as anything other than a very expensive coaster.

SteveH wrote of the iPhone:

I actually quite often use my phone for phoning people. And I often wish my phone had WiFi and a decent sized screen.

You need a second generation iPhone when it's released, then....

The iPhone will become a great device, but at the moment it's specced for the US market where 3G and MMS aren't as popular as they are in Europe.

Exactly. In a recent side by side test on The Gadget Show, the N95 beat the iPod.

I'm inclined to agree with you. On paper, it looks, well okay. In the flesh, the interface is pretty shiny funky.

I suspect that as a device, your mileage may vary. :) Surely not. By all accounts, it's an okay handset wrapped up with a lovely interface. If you are a "power user" by all accounts a BlackBerry is a superior piece of kit. If you like your devices all arty and funky, and you like to pose, you'll love the iPhone. If you find must modern handsets' menu systems too annoying, again, the iPhone may hit the spot.

Personally, £300 is too much for something that will be obsolete very, very quickly and in a years time, you'll look like another mug with more money than sense. :)

Me? If I were interested I'd be waiting for the second or third generation device.

Not sure it'll be a "great" device one day. Watch that space.

I've been tempted by the BlackBerry but it's a bit clunky to actually use. (Maybe that's just stubby thumbs)

The pearl's keyboard is horrible, but the curve is fine. Shame about the lack of 3G though - only thing that stops me getting one.

It seems that the ipod touch does most of the iphone stuff without the actual phone bit. I would be tempted to buy an ipod touch and an, errr, phone :-)

You know, for like phoning people and stuff.

The tocuh needs unlocking to get at the interesting bits but yes it works and apparently can be used for VoIP, although fucknose how. Someone I know has one and is very happy with it. However since my music occupies 50GB on my current iPod I won't be getting a touch until they up the storage to something sensible.

I've read quite a few reports of them becoming iPodBricks with screen failures already though - so maybe best to hold off for a little while.

Thats what i intend to do, i had an iphone for a few days but calls and texting was a joke. I only miss it for the wifi web browsing

Chet

Sony Ericsson have a new PDA-style touchscreen thing named the P1i. I liked it, but wouldn't have used all the features all that often, so returned it and cancelled the contract, but otherwise very good phone, not as chic as the iPhone, but that's not really the point of it, it's business.

You forgot to mention the Barryboys website Ian.

Ok quick update, went with the N95. Not a bad deal: £30 a month, 500 min, 100 texts, unlimited web browsing, free phone.