Saab 9-5 HOT Aero

what about holding on for the replacement, Insignia IIRC, isn't it being unveiled this week at the London show?

james

Maybe not. But us on the other hand... :)

--=20 Lordy.UK

I suspect that's the only time "Biblical" has ever been used in that particular context, but it made me giggle like a retard on laughing gas.

"jamesd1974" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Yesterday.

Hehe - I delivered to a school full of them the other day. Superbly clean windows.

They send Passats to school now?

Loks like they've badly tried to make it out of a CLS and an IS.

Looks like a slug.

Better be careful I don't start catching Vauxhalls in the beer traps in my back garden!

Maybe not. But us on the other hand... :)

Of course - but I bet you, like me, would take the Vectra for the superior handling and use of the power, over the comfier seats and softer suspension of the Saab. AFAIK you're not a badge snob either, although I'm not sure the Saab badge is really above the Vx in one in a lot of peoples minds anyway, certainly not like say, a Beemer or Merc would be.

Then of course the Vectra would require the old stage 3, big FMIC, full Miltek inc pre-cat removal and sports cat (or is it cats?) and remap - rumoured to show 330bhp+ and similar amounts of lbs/ft. Although to be honest, I wouldn't bother with the FMIC, just the Miltek and remap for

If it was me though, and I had to have something a bit bigger and smallish engined, I'd probably have a Megane R26, which as anyone that reads anything performance car related, ever, is an awesome thing to drive, with epic handling an a great engine. They're even reliable these days, since Abo's iffy one heh, now they're nearing the end of the production run and the new Megane is looming. And if you didn't need rear seats, and didn't mind polycarb rear windows...

Whereas I'd definitely take the Saab for the better seats, less brittle painted plastic, more comfy suspension and the auto box.

We're all petrolheads, but I can guarantee that the average bloke in the street places Saab pretty much up there with the other prestige brands - and streets ahead of Vauxhall.

snipped-for-privacy@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The average bloke in the street is well aware that recent Saabs are just tarted-up Vectras.

I'd disagree - people may know they're owned by the same company that makes Vectras, but I don't think many are all that aware of the platform sharing.

snipped-for-privacy@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Oh, I think you'd be surprised.

The number of (totally un-car) people who've said to me "Oooh, a proper Saab - before they were just Vauxhalls"

S'cos they said it on Top Gear, if you remember, when some new convertible Saab came out, May said "If you want a tarted up Vectra convertible, there you go" heh, after they'd discussed that it was just a Vectra underneath. That'll have educated a fair few people, who'd then love to trot it out to anyone they knew with a Saab heh!

================================================= I don't really care what Hammond and co say cos they are knobs. To me a a Saab will always be better than aVauxhall.

Yes... you must.

They're 'cheap' for a reason, and it's not ignorance on the part of the average car buyer.

For the love of god, just take the fecking company car and be done with it! ;-)

-- JackH

The end being the people at the back. Some systems work remarkably well. I like it icy cold, Charlie likes it furnace hot* and the 9-3 works well in this respects.

Yes. It has an electronic steering lock when you take the key out, but you don't have to have it in any gear whatsoever.

snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

That'd explain the torque-steer. Still, I'm sure it can be welded up.