Top Gear last night...

I think Peugeot 205 Griffe or 309 Goodwood are in a similar vein. Graphite alloys and a jazzy paintjob distinguish them from the GTi variants but at least one of them would be in my collection if I had too much money, simply because they're cool.

You old dudes can keep your Crapis. (c:

quick everyone save this snippet of steveh getting something "slightly" wrong and admiting it! :)

Alot don't...

Yeah, the price

:-)

As, ISTR, Doug said, it's up there with the 309 Goodwood as *the* example to own if you can justify the extra cost.

Yup, a Goodwood would be nice.

and the tickford? what do u think of that?

Still VW philsophy. The thing that struck me about the 1-series was that I can drive the Scorpio, Sera, Beetle, Subaru - pretty much anything - and they all feel much of a muchness. Sure, there are changes in limits and numbers, but overall, they are "Car".

The 1-series felt different. Sharper. It was a feeling I haven't experienced since the mid 90s when I ran an X1/9, and Opel Manta, and drove various types of car - and there were colours to the way they handled and behaved.

Richard

With 130bhp from an A-series that was lucky to produce 80 from the factory (actually, wasn't that the MG Turbo?). That's some carb.

Richard

They don't make those anymore, though :(

I mean, there is logic in my consideration of an XR4i instead of a new car.

Richard

I'd like one of those weird 2.0 V6 models they made for Europe.

Just, you know... to be different.

Richard

Didn't they make a 16v 309 for not-UK markets?

That would be the one to own for me.

Or a Scirocco 16v.

Richard

Small engines with lots of cylinders are ace - Rover 75 2.0V6, Mazda's oddball 1.8V6, 2.0V6 Mitsubishis, 2.0V6 turbo Maseratis... all funny as...

Automotive synaesthesia? Sounds like top-drawer stuff!

Well obviously the carb wasn't the only non-standard thing about it.

The Beetle and Mk5 golf GTi feel completely different (not had a chance to take out the R32) the Mk5 has nice crisp starring and really good feel as good as any

They did this is true, all left hookers tho. And if i was having one of them, I may as well have a 405 T-16.

Nearly bought one of those a few years ago in Belgium. Went ok, but very comfy seats.

If I was going to buy something that weird at the moment it'd probably the Safrane Bi-Turbo that's knocking about near my work. GLF that thing, and the

-- Pete M - Scouse Git Extraodinaire Alfa 155, Ford Capri (still dead), Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 OMF#9 COSOC# (can't remember)

Buy a Goodwood and stick an Mi16 engine. Not particularly difficult and you'd have a wicked car at the end of it!

Is a 405 T-16 turbocharged? I'm guessing an Mi16 isn't, so surely a T-16 is better, no?