What would that be?

Burgerman is right though. RWD is just nicer to drive - even my Volvo 340, which was famed for being s**te to drive when new, was really satisfying to drive round corners compared to anything FWD I've driven. There's nothing like being able to steer the car on the throttle (and no, I'm not talking about getting it sideways).

I guess the proof in that might be driving it hard up a mountain pass then getting stuck in heavy traffic and being unable to overtake.

Nobody has tried to deny this.

What we were saying is that FWDs are not as appalling to drive as has been suggested. And FWDs do oversteer. And RWDs do understeer.

How does crashing make an engine s**te?

I didn't say the engine's s**te. I'm saying that the car (the Koenigsegg (spelling?)), shows that the Veyron is over complicated.

You say that as if supercharger whine is a bad thing.

Fraser

I was driving a GTS-t Skyline today. I forgot how much fun rwd was.

Fraser

Nope, but making such a powerful engine out of a V8 with two superchargers, rather than 16 (or whatever) cylinders, 4 superchargers and 3 squizillion radiators(some just keepign other radiators cool) makes the 4 turbos look silly.

Yes I've parked my normal daily driver up in favour of "borrowing" my fathers Cooper S while he is away. (That will teach him for letting my have a key to his house) As my G40 is off the road I' forgotten how much I love the noise they make at 6k+ down a windy lane with massive rooster tails out the back from the rain.

Don't think it did understeer at all.

Firstly it oversteered at full throttle in excess of 130-140mph. He was already on the limit at this point - no margin for error. When he lifted to correct the car, it changed attitude and was always going into the grass at that point.

He had two choices - more steering and go in backwards, because the already 'on the limit' rear tyres would have let go completely at that point. Or - admit defeat and point it at the grass to at least get some view of what's going to happen (before the spin starts).

All of the above happened in well under 1.5 seconds at 130 - 140 mph. I think he did well actually. He was, after all, on a hot lap. A very very hot lap.

Check the replay just before going off.

Car ploughing straight on with right hand lock on...

not as hot as his brown pants was i bet hehe

Looks like it oversteered one way, he turned into it and it snapped back the other way which he steered right into but by then he didn't have enough road left.

Maybe. Perhaps we should ask Top Gear?

but isn't that why you bought a hinda :)