65 Mustang Power Steering with Air

Mar 21, 2005 5 Replies

Hoping someone can help me with this, just converted my 65 convertible from Manual to Power steering. The car has factory air, I can't figure out how the pump mounts, the pulley won't line up with either of the crank pulleys. Here is how its mounted: The PS braket is on top of the Compressor bracket and uses two bolts which actually go into the head. The other two bolts go into the water pump and I needed about a 1/2 inch spacer betweent the bracket and water pump to get a good fit. The pump needs to go toward the rear of the car about 3/8 inch to align with the middle grove on the crank/water pump. The most forward grove goes to the A/C compressor.



Does anyone know what im doing wrong here? I can think of two possibilites:


1) I could remove the A/C compressor bracket and the PS would line up perfectly with the middle grove, problem is the A/C would no longer line up with the most forward grove.
2) Maybe I need a different pulley which sweeps rearward about 3/8", if one exists?

Maybe some kind soul could email me a detailed picture of their setup??



Thanks, Chris snipped-for-privacy@midsouth.rr.nospam.com


Why don't you Google? You can find plenty.

The PS pump should have a single groove pulley on it. There is one belt for the AC, and one for the PS. The PS belt sits behind the AC belt. Are you sure you have the correct bracket?

Wow, I sure am glad one of the two guys with a set of tools decided to hang around to share his "tech" advice. Where else but RAMFM could someone go to get the idea to do a web search?

Seriously, to answer Chris' question, it sounds as if there might be two PS brackets, one for AC cars and one for non-AC. I don't know. But Custom Auto

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is the place I would goto find out. Call them at 813-251-2356 and they'll probably be able tofix you up.

180 Out TS 2

P=2ES. The front dress on my '70 Cougar is like a jigsaw puzzle. From memory I can tell you the innermost belt goes crank-alternator. The middle belt goes crank-PS-water pump. The outermost belt goes crank-AC, with a stationary idler pulley near the PS pump and an adjustable one on the AC bracket. But I'll bet this is not the same as a '65.

The power steering pump should mount below the compressor. Three belts. A/C towards the front of the car. the power steering pump belt should go around the crank pulley and over the water pump pulley. The alternator also goes around the water pump pulley. You should have three grooves on the crank pulley, two on the water pump and one each on the P/S pump, alternator, and A/C pump (stock). The A/C belt goes around the crank at the outermost pulley around an idler pulley to clear the water pump (also used for belt tension adjustment) and to the compressor.

You can adjust the alignment to a degree by moving the pully on the pump. It's pressed on so you either need a power steering pulley puller (say that fast three times), available at Kragens or a homemade installer made with a bolt threaded into the shaft and a nut and washer/spacer to "press" the pulley on some more. It should be able to move 3/8" if it isn't already all the way back. Under no circumstances should you try to use a hammer to push it back some more as it will damage the pump. Pressing it on is easier when you have the belt installed and under tension and it also helps you see when it aligns.

Mark

Mark, Thanks, I was able to get it all together, as you said, the key is mounting the PS Bracket underneath the AC Bracket, I was trying to mount it on top of the A/C bracket......

Chris

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