Doh! I Need Help!

1989 5.0 LX hatchback, AOD, air, power steering/power brakes, non-California Mustang

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Ok, so I've lurked here off and on for several years, even posted a time or two.

I'm no mechanic. Don't get me wrong, I do most of my own work, but that usually consists of an oil change or bolting on a new part.

I've replaced the 8.8 axle housing, installed an Auburn Locker, new 31 spline Moser axles, Baer 4 wheel disc brakes, installed a B&M shift kit, removed & replaced the tranny while replacing a rear main seal and leaky oil pan gasket, bolted in a full Bassani exhaust from ceramic-coated stainless steel shorty headers to tailpipes, etc. etc. etc. So basically, I know 'righty-tighty, lefty-loosey'.

So here's how I screwed up. A while back (Holy shit! It was five years ago in March!) my voltage regulator went on the fritz on the way home from a pre-season autocross event. I thought, No big deal, I've replaced it before. But the more I thought about it, the more I thought, Why replace the regulator when I have a 130a alternator just waiting for that dinky 85a one to go out? Why not put it in now?

Ok, so I decide to install the 130a alternator. Have to modify the mounting bracket to make the larger alternator fit. Try to make the mods on the car, but it's a pain in the ass. I'll take it off. I check my Chilton's and Haynes manuals. Hey! A few more bolts and I could replace the timing chain too! 175,000 miles on the original chain, not a bad idea to replace it. Research and buy an Edelbrach timing set. Remove alternator, smog pump, idler arm, etc. until I have the mounting bracket off the engine. Make modifications for new alternator. Continue disassembling until I reach the timing gear. Remove old, install new according to directions, that wasn't so hard! This is turning out to be much easier than I expected.

Get sick. Weather turns bad, don't like to work in the driveway in the cold and rain. Couple of weeks go by, then a couple of months. Summer is here, but I'm still having health problems, hard enough to make it through work every day, no energy to work on car.

So here I am, five years later, with various nuts and bolts and parts and pieces, once organized, now jumbled. Does this bolt go here, or is it that one over there? Did I use the right bolt when I reinstalled that five years ago? Do I still have everything? Damn, it's a big jigsaw puzzle now. I hate jigsaw puzzles.

Please, please, PLEASE! Someone help a stupid old man. My manuals are no help at all. I need an exploded view diagram or something to show me which bolts go where so I can drive my baby again. Now that I'm starting to feel better, I really miss it and want to drive it this summer. Can you help?

Arlie Cooper, AKA Blue_Gator, AKA Dumbass

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Blue Gator
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"Blue Gator" wrote : : Please, please, PLEASE! Someone help a stupid old man. My manuals are : no help at all. I need an exploded view diagram or something to show me : which bolts go where so I can drive my baby again. Now that I'm : starting to feel better, I really miss it and want to drive it this : summer. Can you help? : : : Arlie Cooper, : AKA Blue_Gator, : AKA Dumbass

Bless your heart... someone in here will help, Now that I think of it, since digital cameras came out, every time I start tearing something apart I take photos of it as I go. My forgetter works so good that I have to!

Kate

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Kate

Thanks, Kate.

I didn't have a digital camera at that time, but I could have used the film camera. I just didn't expect the reassembly to take five years so I didn't think I needed photos. I'm usually very good at keeping my parts and pieces (and tools) organized so this doesn't happen, but after so much time has passed, things have been moved a few times and are jumbled together.

Thanks for the sympathy.

Arlie

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Blue Gator

Well, if you weren't so far away, we could burn something on the BBQ, drink some beers and you and the hubster could figure it out. Don't beat up on yourself so bad though, stuff happens.

Kate

: > Bless your heart... : > someone in here will help, : > Now that I think of it, since digital cameras came out, every time I start : > tearing something apart I take photos of it as I go. : > My forgetter works so good that I have to! : >

: > Kate : >

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: Thanks, Kate. : : I didn't have a digital camera at that time, but I could have used the : film camera. I just didn't expect the reassembly to take five years so : I didn't think I needed photos. I'm usually very good at keeping my : parts and pieces (and tools) organized so this doesn't happen, but after : so much time has passed, things have been moved a few times and are : jumbled together. : : Thanks for the sympathy. : : : Arlie

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Kate

As I remember Tim has a step by step with pictures for the alternator upgrade on his web site.

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WindsorFox

Well, just like a jigsaw puzzle for adults, you're going to have to make a plan and do one or more assembly dry runs.

First thing is to make sure all threads are clean and lubed, to minimise effort.. best if they run in with fingers. thread-chase both bolts and holes

Take what documenting you can find for locations then map the rest.

Yeah, it's gonna take a lot longer, but at least you are planning for it..

Remember, no bolt should bottom, none should have less than 3/4 inch thread engagement, none should 'wiggle' when in 4 or more threads (that's for newbies)

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Backyard Mechanic

try this web site it costs for a years subscription but I've found it really helpful on my '87 things that most shop don't know.

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walt peifer

Thanks for the suggestions guys. and the invite, Kate!

I stopped by the local Ford shop this morning and talked to the service manager. I've known him, as an acquaintance, since around 1992. The first time he asked to help me I thought he was a 16 year old lot washer. How could he help me? Anyway, he turned out to be so good that he made assistant shop manager after one or two years, and has been shop manager for about 8 years now.

I thought he might photocopy a couple pages out of a manual or something, but he actually loaned me the whole manual. I've glanced at it and I think it has everything I need.

I'll let you know how it goes!

Arlie

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Blue Gator

"Blue Gator" wrote : Thanks for the suggestions guys. and the invite, Kate! : : I stopped by the local Ford shop this morning and talked to the service : manager. I've known him, as an acquaintance, since around 1992. The : first time he asked to help me I thought he was a 16 year old lot : washer. How could he help me? Anyway, he turned out to be so good that : he made assistant shop manager after one or two years, and has been : shop manager for about 8 years now. : : I thought he might photocopy a couple pages out of a manual or : something, but he actually loaned me the whole manual. I've glanced at : it and I think it has everything I need. : : I'll let you know how it goes! : : : Arlie

GREAT News Arlie! Brings to mind the old saying "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then"

No you'll have to post photos... it's a must do thing :)

Kate

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Kate

I'll consider it, but I'm terrible at taking photos.

Oh, and I have no problem finding my nuts. I just wish a cute young squirrel would find them now and then.

Arlie

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Blue Gator

A trick I've always done since I worked on bombers in the navy is to put all of the bolts back where they go (temporarily) if possible. If not, I put them in marked zip lock bags. If something (like a timing cover) has different lengths and/or diameters of bolts, I grap a piece of cardboard, draw the basic shape of the timing cover (or whatever) and poke holes in the cardboard and put the bolts in the holes. You can't go wrong, even if the job sits for a long time.

-Dave

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nospam

I do some of the same things, putting bolts back in the holes, plastic bags, but I've never done the cardboard trick. I like that one.

Unfortunately, I expected this to be a weekend project and just laid aside the pieces that couldn't go back in, in an organized manner. That usually works very well, but not after five years.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Arlie

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Blue Gator

"Blue Gator" wrote : Oh, and I have no problem finding my nuts. I just wish a cute young : squirrel would find them now and then. : : Arlie

LOL! I'm thinking that you ARE a little nuts!

Those cute YOUNG squirrels aren't all they're cracked up to be.

Kate

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Kate

It is a good idea - huh!

K.

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Kate

True on both counts! I wouldn't mind meeting a nice middle-aged squirrel either.

Arlie

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Blue Gator

Them young uns don't have much experience playing with nuts I'd be afraid they would try and crack em. But a middle aged one now thats a different story.............>.>>> Dave running off to find his middle aged squirrel

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Deputy Dog

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