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But he didn't say it wasn't true. We will probably never know.

The freedoms we enjoy don't come without a price. You too are spouting the typical left-wing talking points that just don't stick. You chose to emphasize and amplify all the negatives and totally ignore the positives of our actions. If we don't fight terrorism on a global scale then we may as well stay home. But then again that is probably your choice from the start. Either that or let the United Nations keep us secure.

It's funny how liberals will throw women's rights, human rights, torture of hundreds of thousands etc. overboard when it doesn't suit them politically. This is the main problem for your group. They have no core set of morals they will defend to the end. This is also why you're loosing your ability to pursuade very many people to agree with your political positions. You're true motivating forces are easily seen by anyone that cares to look. That is, regain political power at any cost, which includes but is not limited to lying, instilling fear, trashing our military, promoting racism and just being plain anti-American.

Want to see what the liberals are trying to do to our country? Just click on link below and read:

No doubt they will welcome us with flowers and candy.

Here are some facts; Saddam did and had tried to produce nuclear, chemical and bio weapons, prior to Gulf War 1 and after. He succeeded in producing chemical weapons and he used them. Saddam, thanks to a gullible European and Arab community, was in the process of getting sanctions lifted by the corrupt UN. This would have given him a big green light to re-start what he'd done before. The increase (80% over 2 years) in Asian use of crude oil has driven up the cost, increasing the coffers of all oil producing countries, including Irag. Interecession by Israel in 1983 (bombing the Osirak nuclear reactor) stopped Saddam from making nukes in the 1980s. LACK of intercession by the Clinton administration against North Korea has allowed them to produce nuclear weapons and long range missles. IMO, the deposing of Saddam came not a minute too soon. So stop supporting the ENEMY and start supporting your country and IT'S best interests. Call it pre-emption if you believe he had at the time of invasion, no ability to produce weapons of mass destruction. Remember, Germany re-armed to massive levels in less than 4 years once Europeans sanctions were lifted from it, post WW1.

It's funny how you turn this into ideology -- liberal vs. conservative. I'm simply saying that this Iraq misadventure is our worst strategic mistake since Viet Nam, and maybe even surpassing that one.

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head, there, RichA.

For you this is liberal verses conservative. You just don't want to admit it because being painted as a wacko left-wing liberal nowadays has horrible political consequences. Comparing the war on terror to Vietnam is ridiculous and shows you have a fundamental, and fatal, lack of understanding of this conflict. This is why far left liberals can't be trusted to run a war to a winning end.

We will not physically invade Iran.

I'm sorry to say, for your sake, that the new Secretary of State has already been chosen, and that the Secretary of Defense is apparently staying in his post, despite appalling and disgraceful incompetence.

BTW, what does "PE" stand for?

Pacifists do not understand military strategy. Trying to explain it is a waste of breath.

"WindsorFox[SS]" wrote in news:k9Apd.1140 $gH3.345@lakeread05:

explain

If you think I'm a pacifist for asking those two questions, then you're a complete moron. As for 'military strategy', Bush doesn't seem to have a clue what his is.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

I'll vouch for you, Joe. I've read enough of your posts over the years to know you're no pacifist. ;)

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com:

Thanks, Michael. Guess you know me too well. ;)

Seriously though, I just don't want to see my own son end up in a war. What parent does?

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

No sane parent does, IMHO.

Yes, and it's several good stategies - something that if you think about it comes very clear:

As much as others may hate these moves, G.W. Bush is the POTUS, and watching out for American interest is his job; not trying to be buddy-buddy pal-pal with other countries. I don't hear any outcries of the things that France and Germany are doing to destablize and obstruct the influencing and introduction of democracy to the Arabic areas of the world.

So please stop with your 'Bush is a moron' crap - because if that's true, then your side is even more stupid, because you keep getting your ass kicked by a moron.

It happens. Freedom is not free; the price can sometimes be very high.

Before you tell me to join the service- I'm too old, and am nursing back and knee injuries. They wouldn't let me rejoin for Gulfwar 1 in 1991 due to these problems. (Being a Critical Cere Registered Nurse, I would have been a hot catch, but my body was too broken to do the required job) I pulled my

Now that the knee-jerk reaction is taken away - I mourn every death that our side incurs (being policitically incorrect, I could care less about the 'innocent Iraqis' - they sould be helping us get rid of the terrorists, not hiding like cockroaches from them), but these guys are doing something that (at least to me) is very courageous - they are trying to free the world from terrorist that would kill anybody in a split second to get to see Allah and their 72 virgins, and these terrorist could care less about killing innocent women and children in the process. These cockroaches must be destroyed, before they destroy others.

That's not what I meant, but he will never pass up a chance to yell something vile at me....

"The Rebel" wrote in news:nLJpd.568167$mD.136446@attbi_s02:

First: Don't put words in my mouth. I never said Bush was a moron, although you might want to check his college grades.

Second: My ass isn't getting kicked by anybody, and you have no idea what my "side" is.

Third: The only interests the current POTUS has is his own. If you think the POTUS is your buddy, _you_ are the moron. Sure, Dubya's born again and all that great stuff, but he doesn't give a rat's ass what happens to me or my family (for the record, neither does Kerry). If Dubya the POTUS really cared about us, why is he leaving all our kids with the largest deficit in history?

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

I was referring to Bush's illegal and immoral terror attack on the innocent people of Iraq. Not only has that failed and globally condemned attack created many thousands of new enemies of the U.S., but it has diverted resources and money away from the fight against terrorism.

You're revealing a lot of ignorance. Quit while you're behind.