What's This Guy Smoking?

V'ger jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net

The Jap OEM's and the resto aftermarket will never support Sayonara Shitboxes. See how the attempt was made years ago in the 240Z market and failed. And that was a halfway nice-looking car that could take a V8 swap with no problem.

Even here in the land of no rust, the 80's Mitsuyotas are very few and far between. In fact, many of the sticker-and-wing 90's cars seem to have been replaced by more sedate newer attempts.

Japan produces their cars as disposable per federal regulations. If the American public would understand this, there would be less of these rolling mosquitoes around.

The fact that he actually had to mention the F&F movie pretty much brands him as a ricer from the git go, and most probably a pot smoker as a result.

This happens every time tradtional investments slow down, causing the auctioneers to gear up the Spin Machine. Prices dropped drastically after the last go-around, leaving Johnny Latecomer stranded with a barn full of muscle bought too high. It's just like the old pyramid games. I give this run about a year, as investers burned before will stay out of the fracus.

Wrong; you'd have a little ugly turdlet.

Which one is the half-scale Mopar wannabe with the Hemi Cuda hood scoop and the Daytona wing? I've seen three of them so far, so I'm guessing the first one was not a one-off attempt.

I agree.

Probably the WRX STi. Big open scoop on the hood and a huge, squared off wing. At least the scoop's functional, unlike most of today's cars, and shoves air down the airbox for a turbo to pick up. Relatively fast with its AWD (great for launching and traction in the turns) and turbo setup... but you have to drive the piss out of the car and almost kill the clutch to get that kind of performance out of it. I'll keep my Cobra, thanks.

The EVO has a whole slew of aftermarket parts on it... it's turbo AWD as well.. Brembo brakes, Recaro seats, etc... but it's still *ugly* IMO.

I'll say that I've had my ass handed to me by some of these turbo AWD cars that can pull a 1.8 60' time on cheap all-season tires... but let me know where those cars are in 10 years.

They probably make a great winter beater though....

JS

"Patrick" wrote

| | NoOp Comment: "More power" -- NOS systems and aftermarket blowers and | turbos do not appreciate with time. All become outdated as technology | improves. "Suspension systems" -- At best, a wash. Again, technology | will improve and the only ones who'll like these setups will be the | guys wanting a little nostelgia. "Big speakers" -- complete loss. | Any electronic item is total junk in 5-10 years. Current stereo | systems will be as big a joke in 10-20 years as 8-tracks and AM radios | are today.

You forgot fluorescent stickers. Their value and HP rating decreases quickly. Kate

| | "You can get tuners at auction for under $10,000. If you found one | with low mileage and took care of it, you would have a very desirable | commodity in 10 or 20 years." | | NoOP Comment: If you bought and took care of one of these tuners, in | 10-20 years you'd have a still have a big ugly turd. Custom | cars/modified cars, unless done by a well-known professional, are not | money makers. Because what one person does to a car a potential buyer | will not like, and at best will want to undo, and at worst, won't want | to buy the car because of the modification(s). Bottom line" You | want a "tuner"? Buy a "factory tuner" -- GTO, GT, SS, AAR, AMX, etc., | or if you like Japanse, WRX/WRX STi, EVO, 300 or 350Z, etc. | | That's my take. | | Patrick | '93 Cobra | '83 LTD

Remember that pimped boss 302 with all it's custom 70s style in perfect condition and how we laughed at it?

That's what people will do with riceboy cars in 20 years. hell lots of us do that now.

these cars are the cartoon characters of todays automotive mix, just like that boss 302 was in '78.

V'ger jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net

Probably with a blown (not in the good sense) engine.

My high school was some sort of yuppie ricer magnet, and kids trashing their engines doing smoke shows or "racing," farting from stoplight to stoplight, was almost a weekly occurrence. I think there is still the shaft of a broken connecting rod embedded in the pavement somewhere in the school's parking lot.

I disagree here. Check out Hemming's Muscle Machines magazine and you'll find a lot of guys writing in with thank yous for featuring cars from post muscle car era number 1. And I think the cars in muscle car era number 2 will also appreciate over time -- the early Fox cars, the Grand Nationals/GNXs, Impala SSs, Lightning PUs, LS1 Vettes & Cambirds, Prowlers, etc.

The biggest problem the cars from muscle car era 2 face is every few years there's a better and faster model. So why pay top dollar for an "obsolete model"? An example is my car. It's a neat car, but why would someone want to pay really big bucks for it, when they can buy a new/newer GT Mustang that's just as fast and handles and brakes better? To drive the prices of these late-model cars up, what needs to happen is muscle car era 2 needs to end, or at least have a pause that lasts about a decade or so. THEN you'll see guys really snapping up these new muscle cars because they'll be viewed as the last of a breed.

IMO, that long pause -- late 70's/early 80's -- was the kindling that fueled the crazy prices we now see on the 50's - '60's models.

Patrick '93 Cobra '83 LTD

That is way too cool. Seriously!

Kate

| > I saw a site the other day with pictures of it... I'm gonna try to find it | > again... | >

| > > On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:34:15 GMT, "JS" wrote: | > >

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| > > >>> or if you like Japanse, WRX/WRX STi, EVO, 300 or 350Z, etc. | > > >>

| > > >> Which one is the half-scale Mopar wannabe with the Hemi Cuda hood | > > >> scoop and the Daytona wing? I've seen three of them so far, so I'm | > > >> guessing the first one was not a one-off attempt. | > > >

| > > >Probably the WRX STi. Big open scoop on the hood and a huge, squared | off | > > >wing. At least the scoop's functional, unlike most of today's cars, | and | > > >shoves air down the airbox for a turbo to pick up. Relatively fast | with | > its | > > >AWD (great for launching and traction in the turns) and turbo setup... | > but | > > >you have to drive the piss out of the car and almost kill the clutch to | > get | > > >that kind of performance out of it. I'll keep my Cobra, thanks. | > > >

| > > >The EVO has a whole slew of aftermarket parts on it... it's turbo AWD | as | > > >well.. Brembo brakes, Recaro seats, etc... but it's still *ugly* IMO. | > > >

| > > >I'll say that I've had my ass handed to me by some of these turbo AWD | > cars | > > >that can pull a 1.8 60' time on cheap all-season tires... but let me | know | > > >where those cars are in 10 years. | > > >

| > > >They probably make a great winter beater though.... | > > >

| > > >JS | > > >

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