GTO Sales article.

Chicago Tribune, Business section (3) June 2, 2004 by Jim Mateja. Autos.

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GTO's Sales Performance Gets Pontiac's Goat,

There are a few red faces at General Motors.

In the first four months of this year, sales of the Aztek SUV, considered by many the most gosh - awful - looking vehicle on the planet, totaled 7,416 units, down from 11,311 a year earlier. But the countdown to Aztek obscurity is not what is causing the red faces.

In the same period, sales of Pontiac GTO totaled 2800 unit, meaning Aztek outsold the highly touted performance coupe by more than 2 1/2 to

  1. GTO is derived from the rear wheel drive Monaro produced by GM's Holden operations in Australia.

Even before GTO went on sale in late December, critics complained that the styling was plain and not suited to a nameplate that kicked off the muscle car era in the 1960's.

While Pontiac is considering styling tweaks on future models to sooth the critics, it insists that a many people like the look as object to it and that styling hasn't held back sales.

" While we'd always like to sell more, we haven't been disappointed with the GTO sales so far." Pontiac spokesman Tom Beaman said.

Not disappointed though Pontiac forecasts sales of 16,000 to 18,000 units a year and is on target to sell only about 7400 ?

But then, GTO was meant less as a styling exercise than a performance statement with its 5.7 litre V-8 that produces a potent 350 horsepower.

Beaman cites a winter launch of a rear wheel drive preformance car as one reason for slow early sales in the Northern states.

Of course, you have to ask why in the name of all that's holy would you introduce a rear wheel drive performance car in the dead of winter in the North?

But then, if anyone knew the answer to that question, they'd know why

7,416 bought the most gosh awful looking vehicle on this planet in the first four months of this year.

Another problem, Beaman says, is Pontiac held to its commitment to supply each of Pontiac's more than 2700 dealers with a GTO to use as a " halo " vehicle to attract folks to the showrooms.

Those halos helped Pontiac sell 16% more cars in the period, though few of them GTOs.

He also said that while the GTO didn't fare too well in the snow belt over the winter, it's done well in southern California, where Pontiac is tradionally weak. There, more than 40% of GTO sales are conquests - captured from rival brands - so more GTO's will be shipped there.

Pontiac is also counting on " The Last Ride ", a made for TV movie that airs Wednesday ( June 2 ) on the USA network, to raise awareness of the GTO.

Pontiac struck a product placement deal to feature the GTO in the film. If TV expousure works, Pontiac should put Aztek on the tube. How about a role in " Extreme Makeover "?

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Harry Face
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If you think the Aztek is ugly you apparently have not seen the Element, Insight, Prius, Matrix, Scion or anything sold by Nissan. Any one of those makes the Aztek look like a beauty pageant winner. ;)

mike hunt

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MikeHunt2

Mike,

I've seen all the models you've mentioned and don't care for them. I do kind of like the looks of the Nissan Armanda SUV.

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Reply to
Harry Face

I have a 04 GTO and love its performance and interior comfort. As far as outside looks, it looks like a Saturn. I cant call it ugly but it sure doesn't have any GTO looks or macho appearance. I guess it passes of as a sleeper as most people don't realize it is a muscle car until they hear it or get in a race with it. There is no doubt about its ability to kick ass though.

I think the guy from oz hit the nail on the head in that GM should have sold it as what it is, a Holdon Monaro and it would have sold well. If they want a GTO then they should design a retro looking GTO. They can use the Monaro drive train and build a retro body for it.

Just my opinion DEC

Reply to
Dave Carr

I wonder how it would show against the new Dodge Magnum SRT-8 with 430 horsepower...(80 more horses then the GTO...but about 400 pounds heavier as well)?

Reply to
James C. Reeves

Nissan has increases sales 30%-40% since the introduction of those new designs. They aren't my style either, but hard to argue with success.

Nothing helps the Aztek...not even the models you suggest help. It's right there with the Element and Scion in my opinion. My next door neighbor's daughter has the Aztek, so I have to look at that pig nearly all the time...so I might be bias.

Reply to
James C. Reeves

They didn't get the economics right on this one. It's too expensive. They should've offered the 350HP as they do now, but as the optional engine, while they should've also offered a lower-priced V8 as the standard engine. Also they should've brought it to Canada. It's a test bed for affordability throughout North America. If they could've economically brought the GTO into Canada, with its lower dollar, and higher crash safety standards, then they could've easily brought it into the US to its higher gross margins. Canadians buy proportionately more domestic brands than the Americans do.

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf Khan

That's a real problem with the GTO. All us old school Mucsle Car boys were expecting a Judge, and all we got was a Tempist. When you looked at a Trans Am, it looked like it was going to suck you in, chew you up, and spit you out. The GTO's used to have that same look. The new one is lacking it. Looks to much like a GP or Grand Am.

Dont get me wrong, in a year or two I would like to buy one, hopefully it will have the looks up to speed by then. Charles

Reply to
Charles Bendig

Not have enough "show" to match the "go" is a big problem.

John

Reply to
John Horner

You've apparently never seen a beauty pageant. The Aztek really is that ugly.

Getting back on the actual subject, that's a great article; the Tribune apparently has somebody that really pays attention. But I don't really believe the GTO is not selling as many as are available. I have no idea where the GTO's are, but I don't think they're sitting unsold on lots anywhere. Has anybody seen them piling up?

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Reply to
Joe

Here in NW NJ they are selling . Been trying to test drive one and the few that come in are moving out fast. Haven't been trying everyday but over the last few weeks only 1 dealer had 2 and now they're gone. I sat in one, interiors nice but outside it's a plain Jane. That's OK with me, I like the old sleeper look vs. the bolt on "tuner look" of all that body cladding. Just like years ago the really fast cars had the dog dish hubcaps. Other than wheels, phony hood scoops and hideaway headlight my '68 wasn't any different looking than a Lemans. They aren't dealing on price either, all are asking sticker for them. 34k is too much IMO

Reply to
Repairman

Its plenty of show when you add the working Ram Air Twin Scoop Hood. But I know what you mean with the 04's as far as the looks, I happen to like the looks as it was, but with the new after market hood..... well lets just say....WOW...now thats a Goat!!!!!

BB

ps the 04 GTO's already have ram air built in with a vent in the grill, but it just looks better with the hood and the ram air box with the scoops.......

Reply to
nO SpAm

There is a dealer in Michigan that has about 20 GTO's sitting on the lot and they're discounting them to GMS to anybody on the street.

O'hare Pontiac in Chicago has about five sitting on the lot and trying to sell them at $500 over invoice.

There's quite a few sitting around in the midwest and the dealers are starting to offer 2-$3000 off sticker which IMO isn't a good deal when there are huge incentives on other vehicles that are selling well.

Pontiac has only sold about 3,000 GTO's to date and approx 6-8,000 have hit the US borders so far. Dealers that won't deal, no incentives, and GM misjudging that most buyers would want an automatic trans is what is making the GTO not sell ...

Its all good news to me though because that will mean I'll get a good deal on one this summer =)

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Dennis Smith

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Markeau

That's why they're not selling. It's not the looks (although they could be impvored), it's certainly not the performance, it's the price. Just too expensive.

Of course, I couldn't buy one anyway. I need 4 doors now. One toy (79 T/A) is all I can justify...

Reply to
Scott Zabolotzky

Have you tried to get antique plates for your '79 and save some money on insurance costs? ;)

mike hunt

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Reply to
BigJohnson

I was thinking that the price of gas today doesn't help sell performance cars in general. I have to admit thinking about a Prius... Ugh!!!

Reply to
Joseph Roche

In Ohio antique plates only allow you to drive occasionally and not use the vehicle as you want to. What I got for my 1979 Corvette was collector plates. These cost about double and allow you to be exempt from emission checks. A 1979 TA would qualify for collector plates in Ohio.

Brian

Reply to
NoSpam

I havnt seen any GTOs piling up on dealers lots, I also havnt seen any on the streets either.

Reply to
Bobby Califone

Don't know actually. The local Dodge dealer web site has it listed...but I haven't been up there lately to check it out. The RT probably wouldn't match up with the GTO though since the Magnum is several hundred pounds heavier then the GTO.

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James C. Reeves

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