Tesla

I read all th Q7As every thing was fine until I got down to cost. I am going to wait more.

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fred seaver
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Wait more for the Prius? Is there a problem with the Prius cost? The Prius is quite affordable.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

I think he is going to wait more for the Tesla. I am not running out for one either. Tomes

Reply to
Tomes

Tesla? There's a Tesla trim level for the Prius? When did that come about?

(he says, writing this in alt.autos.toyota.prius)

Everybody knows that the Prius isn't an electric car, that the Prius isn't a Tesla, and that the Tesla isn't a Prius--right?

I guess we could go over to the Microsoft Windows newsgroups and start randomly talking about Macintosh--after all, they're both computer operating systems with a GUI, right?

I repeat: the Prius isn't an electric car. It's a gasoline car. The ONLY--the ONLY--source of energy that's put into the car is gasoline. It uses an internal combustion engine to translate that stored gasoline energy into energy for the propulsion system.

The Prius is NOT an electric car.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Reply to
fred seaver

The Prius captures, stores and uses kinetic energy. Sometimes it operates as an electric car, especially when backing up or starting from a dead stop. The Prius has an all-electric mode enabled automatically in U.S. models; both automatically and under switch control in other, non- U.S. versions. Because of its ability to capture kinetic energy, gasoline is *not* its only propellant. In fact, the captured kinetic energy is largely responsible for its great gas mileage and long-lasting brakes. It's not an electric car and its not a gas car. It's a hybrid.

Reply to
Was Istoben

The ultimate source of that kinetic energy is gasoline.

Reply to
Michelle Steiner

Well, if we are going to be picky, the ULTIMATE source of that kinetic energy is the Sun, so really it's solar-powered ;-)

Chas

Reply to
Chas Gill

Yep. So?

The kinetic energy comes from--take a deep breath--the burning of gasoline. Period. No other source of energy causes the kinetic energy.

It's not a Tesla. It's a gas-burning Prius. Only a moron would come into the Prius newsgroup and talk about a Tesla, just like only a moron would go into a Windows newsgroup and talk about Macintosh.

It is never an electric car--the hybrid synergy drive is a SYSTEM that happens to use electricity as part of the SYSTEM. You cannot--CANNOT--divorce the electrics from the internal combustion engine. The two operate as a SYSTEM, unlike the Tesla which is a pure electric car.

That a car uses electricity to do some things doesn't make it an electric car. Every car uses electricity to start the engine and to run the lights and radio; does that mean that we should discuss any and every car in this forum?

The ONLY source of energy put into the Prius is gasoline. Period. It is a gasoline car. How it manages that gasoline, how the SYSTEM manages that gasoline energy, is one thing. But make no mistake--and you repeatedly do--the Prius can do nothing without gasoline being put into it.

The Tesla does everything without a drop of gasoline put into it, right?

So this is a Prius newsgroup, and the Prius is as unrelated to the Tesla as it is a Pontiac.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Using this logic, then, my Tesla would be a coal car and someone else's Tesla would be a hydroelectric car. The next guy's Tesla would actually be running on natural gas and someone else's would be nuclear powered. I find this quite amusing. I suppose if your grid contains power from multiple sources the Tesla would have to be a hybrid.

Reply to
Was Istoben

That rarely happens, but we get lots of people trolling about Windows in the Mac newsgroups.

-- Michelle

Reply to
Michelle Steiner

Nope; not using his logic. No one puts coal into a Tesla; they put electricity into a Tesla. Similarly, no one puts electricity into a stock Prius; they put gasoline into a stock Prius.

But thanks for demonstrating your illogic.

Reply to
Michelle Steiner

Oh sure, but gasoline isn't naturally occurring. Use you head, dammit.

Reply to
Was Istoben

Totally irrelevant to this discussion.

Take your own advice, dammit.

Reply to
Michelle Steiner

Michelle, every now and then you feel compelled to convince your readers how smart you are by splitting hairs. You are smart, OK? It isn't necessary for you to continue behaving this way. If you behave like a decent person, people will treat you that way. Lots of folks are both smart and decent. Consider joining them.

Reply to
Was Istoben

Let's face it. All energy originated during the big boom.

Reply to
Mr Ed

You don't put coal into the Tesla. You plug it into the electric grid.

You're making shit up because you don't have anything else to say, and you hate having that shoved down your throat.

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

The source of energy for a Prius is the combustion of gasoline in an internal combustion engine, correct?

No electricity enters the Prius from the outside, correct?

Gee, I wonder what you're going to say to these. You'll twist them around, no doubt. You really, REALLY want to BELIEVE the Prius is an electric car.

Well, I guess some people really want to believe that dinosaurs and man walked the earth together, too...

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Hey, I'm not going to make an ass out of you. You're doing just fine on your own.

Reply to
Was Istoben

You're projecting.

Take your own advice.

You just can't stand being wrong, can you? So you lash out and insult people who correct your errors, just like McCain and Palin do.

This isn't splitting hairs; it is that you are flat out wrong, but your ego just won't let you admit it, so you act like an asshole.

In other words, I'm not the one who isn't acting decent.

Reply to
Michelle Steiner

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