What to buy?

I'm pissed off at Saab that they won't fix the SID that has now broken in my car TWICE (I paid to have it fixed 15 months before it broke again) and it's about time to get another car.

If I'm not goign to replace it with (1) any Saab model or (2) any GM model, what should I get?

I was thinking:

Volvo S80 or S60 with the HPT and AWD options Audi A6

BMW's and Benz's are too expensive, especially late model used cars. I'm not sure I want an Accura or Lexus either.

What else should I consider to replace the 9-5 when spring rolls around?

Reply to
Bill Jackson
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As much as I've loathed Lexus, the new IS is really a kick ass car.

Reply to
WitchDr

Obviously a SAAB without a SID;

92, 93, 95, 96, 97, 99 or a (classic) 900.

I doubt it...

Reply to
MH

Bill,

No no, choose the 9-3 SportCombi.

It's a clear choice.

SG

Reply to
Saab Guy

Correct,

The Lexus is synonymous with "ass" just as the Pontiac Asstek was.

SG

Reply to
Saab Guy

LOL !

Multiple top-posting.

What a great way to follow a thead - not.

Graham

Reply to
Pooh Bear

I think they're the 9-3's that Saab in Australia are marketting as an 'over-order by Sven' through their dealers. 8-) Not bad actually - A$39990 entry-level pricing is damn good for a new Saab.

Craig.

Reply to
Craig's Saab C900 Site

Probably another Saab seeing this is a Saab group - otherwise whatever you feel like .... but spring rolls are *always* round. Cheers

Reply to
hippo

Yes... I smell troll when anyone in a SAAB group says he's fed up with SAABs and asks to buy a Volvo or an Audi and actualy mentions other unmentionables...

Reply to
MH

since you seem so miffed about the SID display recurring failure (a minor annoyance) I would suggest that you stay away from any European cars entirely and focus on the Japanese marques. Acura, Lexus, Infinity, etc. Those cars have far fewer little problems.

Reply to
Malt_Hound

Hey, I just fixed the SID myself...found good step-by-step walkthroughs on the net (links below). I would suggest trying that before you give up on your car...took me twenty minutes and about a dollar in parts.

As for a car, try a quattro A4. I know the A6 is a wee bit bigger, but you can't be the A4's quattro system - still a great dollar-for-performace investment.

Good idea involving nothing but a ballpoint pen and a torx screwdriver (I haven't tried this):

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This is the site/walkthrough that I used, and it repaired ALL of my lost pixels:
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Reply to
MainerInMass

is that all??

who needs sid anyway...

Reply to
john

I'm on my sixth Saab, a 2000 9-5 that also has issues with the SID display. I can accept how a design problem like the SID pixel issue could occur on such a complex vehicle however, the fix is simple for Saab, and the fix should be retro fittable to earlier models. It's not the little annoyances (within reason) that drive customers away, but the manner in which the manufacturer deals with those issues. I don't want to pay over $400.00 CDN on a faulty design where missing pixels could re-occur in a couple of years. I don't expect indeffinate warranty repairs however, a reputable company should provide replacement parts on a cost recovery basis. My 9-5 is a good car, and relatively trouble free yet my wife's 2000 Acura has had no repairs to date ( only normal wear issues).

A short rant...

Reply to
Fatman

nah....

I've owned three Saabs (and before that a few Volvo's starting with an 1800S way back when)

was pretty happy with the 9000's and the 9-5 until Saab felt giving me the shaft. I actually like the car, but no more.

Reply to
Bill Jackson

Problem is that I'll never trust them again to stand behind their brand.

I truly liked the 9-5 but to knowingly sell me a defective design and then refuse to do anythign for me as a loyal owner of their cars is something that I wont' stand for. I really don't want to own ANY saab brand at this point, not even an older one given that they'll make money from me and I won't have it.

(and I'll probably have to fix the damned SID to sell the car, another $500 gift to the local dealership)

Reply to
Bill Jackson

yea, did that fix the first time, lasted several months then things started back again. It's a faulty design, I finally took mine apart last time and examined the flex under a microscope at work.

Nothing changed int he design of the replacement part, they knowingly continue to sell a defective design.

BTW, I sell components to the automotive market. I know what their quality standards are. I see the kinds of defects that they'll accept (measured in < 100 parts per million on something like this) Want to bet that the SID defect rate is at least an order of magnitutde higher than 100 ppm? It's a systemic problem and they know it. (and whoever is their supplier knows it as well) But they wont' stand behind their product, even one that has gone defective again after only 15 months in the car.

I will try to fix this one again, but given that I paid good $$ to get a replacement, I would have expected a reputable company to stand behind their product. Nope, not Saab

Reply to
Bill Jackson

Saab = GM, virtually no relation now to the classic Saabs, what else would one expect from GM?

Reply to
James Sweet

Saab brand ?

Surely you mean GM.

Graham

Reply to
Pooh Bear

I suppose this begs the question... Who's design is the SID display? SAAB or GM.

Yes, I understand that GM is the one who will not step up and replace every SID that comes in defective now, which they could. Or they could design a fix so that people that do pay to replace their defective SIDs get it fixed for good.

I'm surprised that some enterprising individual hasn't come up with an aftermarket fix. There is obviously a market fot it out there...

Reply to
Malt_Hound

I replaced a GM 900 with a . . . . . Toyota :-( Sad to say the GM Saab repair

issues and frequency of problems convinced me to not buy another GM Saab.

Reply to
ma_twain

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