2008 Saturn Vue XE 4 cylinder vs 2008 Pontiac Torrent

RE: 2008 Saturn Vue XE 4 cylinder vs 2008 Pontiac Torrent

I've narrowed my search for a small SUV to these two cars.

Main reasons, forward folding passenger seat, reclining rear seats and lots of rear leg room. I need these features as I sometimes need to work on my laptop from the car and like to sit in the back.

Both FWD, Both Leather interior. Both black exterior.

I was able to negotiate the Vue down to about 24k Out the door.

And the Torrent for about 25k out the door.

The Vue is 4 cylinders, but drives real nice for a 4 and will save some gas money.

The Torrent is 6 cylinders, but engine seems loud and kind of low torque for a v6.

The Vue does 19 city mpg, the Torrent 17mpg. (Slight win for Vue - though not a fair play)

Leather on Torrent seams cheaper grade, comes in charcoal, Vues leather seems nicer, but in taupe. I prefer charcoal, but the taupe does look nice with black.

As far of space in the back seat, the Torrent is incredible. roll the driver seat up and fold the passenger side and I feel like i'm in my living room. Incredible to think it's a small SUV.

Exterior looks, both have their pros and are attractive. To me, much more attractive than the Honda CR-V. Also the CR-V does hot have a folding passenger seat (who cares right? well I do). Many small size suv's also still have the spare tire showing which is stupid. Sometimes the Torrent looks like a Minivan. Sometimes the Vue looks like a cheap Korean car.

All that said, I would just buy the Torrent for the rear seating space and dark interior, my only concern is a online few reports I've read that might imply cheap plastic parts int he car might break and that over time, and in classic GM style, the engine might get weak and clunky.

Any strong opinions about these cars or better alternatives? Any reason to simply not buy the Torrent?

My most desired features in my next small SUV.

- Folding flat passenger seat

- Reclining rear seats with plenty of head and leg room

- Despite being small SUV, something that does not say, girly car like the CR-V seems to scream.

- Decent fuel economy

- Around $25k OTD with leather (I know that seriously narrows the field)

Thanks in advance for any help or information.

Reply to
jc
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Personally I dont like the New Vues. Foreign made (german engine, mexican chassis IIRC) and the new 2.4L gets worse gas mileage than the

2.2L. The 2.4L also up'ed the octane requirements... (I'm not saying timing chain driven Ecotecs arent good engines.) Just be sure to factor 'octane' into the mileage difference of what ever you get.

You never said which engine you were looking at in the Torrent but I'm guessing its the 3.4 by the city mileage. The Torrent is based on the same chassis as the Equinox. The 3.4L is no longer made in America and is made only in China now. The Equinox&Torrent is also made in China. The 3.4L engine was an awful design so stay away from it. The optional

3.6 VVT engine is very advance (aka complex) and still to new to judge but I don't really care for it...

I'm not fan of the CR-V either... There are no SUV's I like anymore since the Vue changed... Maybe you could consider a Crew Cab Colorado but I doubt it that. The 2.9L actually does pretty good in it. I could name a few nice cars but I don't think they'll fit your need. If I HAD to have a 'new' SUV it would be the Vue but I'd rather have the older

2.2L ones.

Reply to
BläBlä

The Torrent is based upon the old VUE platform, the VUE is an all new vehicle and you are right in noting that the Pontiac V6 is loud and underpowered which is typical of V6 pontiacs. Go with the 4cyl VUE, the ecotec engine in the VUE can't be beat and is tweaked to get the most power. The Torrent is a dying model, to be eventually phased out as it's sister the Chevy Equinox. The '08 VUE is an international SUV with much longevity for GM and many standard safety features and a better safety rating than the Equinox, which again, is the Torrent clone.

Reply to
marx404

Marx stop trying to slander Pontiacs name with that POS motor and stop slamming Pontaic every chance you get. GM could start using that motor in Saturns tomorrow should they choose to. In fact the LZ4 3500 used in the Aura & Vue is based off the 3.4 engine. Also consider Pontaic hasn't had their own motor in almost 30 years & Saturn hasn't had their own motor for almost 5 years now...

Reply to
BläBlä

Dass it!

Reply to
Refinish King

Didn't mean to sound like I was slamming the Pontiac V6, and I do think the ecotec (which you are right, isn't an original Saturn engine, it is a Lotus/Opel engine originally, which I am quite ok with). The Pontiac V6 in the GP was ok, but felt underpowered for what it was. ( I feel the same way about the ecotec in the Aura I4 too) I do like Pontiac actually, you should see what GM has in plans for them and Holdens are cool. I am just not "excited" about anything they have had in awhile. Now, lets talk about thier new G8, now thats something to be excited about.

I was just stating to the OP the facts that the other vehicles he was comparing against are now based on obsolete platforms.

Yes, pushrod is good.

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marx404

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