ION Oil Changes

The ION has a feature where the computer monitors the vehicle's driving conditions and determines when it is time for an oil change.
The factory states that oil changes are not needed before that time. Our local Saturn dealers say that this is all wrong, and that the oil should be changed every 3k miles, regardless of driving conditions. Which entity's opinion is correct? Why is the other one lying?
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Not to accuse your dealer of lying but consider that (s)he makes more money the more frequently her/his customers have their oil changed.
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:35:38 -0400, "Steve"

When i reset the trip after a fill up that damn thing shows up!,If Saturn told me about when i boughtit,I forgot.Besides.I get a letter in the MAIL to set up an appointment.Is the OIL LIFE supposed to go off automatically?.
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The oil life monitor uses a variable of monitoring cold starts, viscosity and other things. That is a golden question, but the answer is quite simple, and actually you can hold the owners manual accountable and correct. Older cars needed to have oil changes every 3K miles, the ecotec allows you to get the full life of your oil by monitoring it and alerts you to tell you when it determines the oil usefulness is gone. However, there are many factors involved such as driving and environmental conditions which may call for you to keep the 3K regimen, such as driving in extreme heat, heavy traffic or dirt roads.
When you press the toggle button on the DIC console to reset the trip computer, it will toggle between "OIL LIFE" and the trip mileage. Depending on how many times you pressed the button it may stay on "OIL LIFE", just press the button again to show your mileage. What the usefulness of this feature is, nobody knows.
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Another slightly more exotic reason to stick to the 3K regimen is that you have a subconscious wish to keep up your dealer's lavish lifestyle and turn yourself into a pauper. Unless your driving takes you down lots of dusty roads and in extreme heat conditions, 5 thou is a more reasonable interval between changes.
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So you agree that the computer monitoring of the oil life does not work correctly? (it gives variable change intervals that typically are quite a bit longer than 5k). What do you believe is the cause of the problem?
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]30, 2007, 8:49am From: ] snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (bopeep)
]So you agree that the computer monitoring of ] the oil life does not work correctly? (it gives ] variable change intervals that typically are ] quite a bit longer than 5k). What do you ] believe is the cause of the problem?
I think the oil computer monitoring is set to go off every 7500 miles. That is when the one on my L-300 went off. I had changed oil twice before it went off the first time. If I waited the full 7500 my oil would be like mud. I find it hard to believe that the manual says change oil every 7500 miles. Does anyone really wait that long?
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On Aug 30, 5:17 pm, snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net wrote:

The topic is oil changes in the ION, not the other models. The computer monitoring in the ION is based on how the car is driven, not the mileage. It looks continuously at things like engine temperature, RPM, load, etc. The results are reported to the owner monthly via email/onstar in the form of "Remaining Oil Life" and a percentage quote. It's found on the "Ecotec" engines.
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As a matter of interest, the COLD weather will do more harm to engine oil than HOT weather. For example, less than 1,000 miles in northern Canada in the winter used over 70% of the oil life. Over 4,000 miles in California used only 60% of the oil life. Cold starting produces huge amounts of oil contamination and sludge. This is proven by weighing a used filter after 1,000 miles of stop and go driving in the winter, and 5.000 miles of highway driving in the summer and comparing the weights. This process will tell you about the realities of temperature on on engine oil. David
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