I worked with an engineer over 25 years ago that left Ford for a better
job in R&D at DuPont. At Ford his last assignment was to adapt a Ford
model to use a Japanese engine.
The last Ford I had, a Mercury Lynx, was assembled in Mexico. Real
lemon BTW. I had to sue Ford and the dealer for the cost of botched
Have some of those. Love having a big V8 in a little car at my command.
Turbos suck (literally and figuratively).
Which means a good chance of buying foreign. Many "American" cars are
made elsewhere and then assembled here. After all, they're called
assembly plants, not parts manufacturing plants. Japanese automakers
build 3 of 5 "most American" cars. The criteria for "most American" is
mentioned below from the cars.com site. American-made just means
American-assembled, not from where the parts come from.
Bet your friend doesn't realize that the USA has become the exporter of
raw materials or parts for use in other countries that now produce the
finished goods. Don't remember when that switched from when the USA was
the innovator and producer to becoming the raw materials supplier.
China is buying up the USA's trade deficients so eventually they'll own
Why Is America's Trade Deficit With China So High?
"China must buy so many U.S. Treasury notes that it is now the
second-largest lender to the U.S."
"Made in America" has become a lie. It has become "Materialed in
America, built in China, imported back to America". Manufacturing has
Due to the globalization of automotive manufacture, I'm not sure you can
find any purely American-made car: made from materials sourced entirely
from America to make parts using plants geographically located in
America and assembled only by Americans. They all have parts or
assemblies that are manufactured elsewhere. The USA is exporting the
raw materials or parts where the finished goods are actually
manufactured elsewhere that then get shipped back to the USA to be
assembled into a larger product. American-made doesn't mean what it
used to. Hasn't been that way for a long time.
Used to be cars.com ranked the top American-made cars. They've had to
change their criteria to "cars assembled in the U.S. with high
domestic-parts content, predominant U.S. sourcing for engines and
transmissions, and high U.S. manufacturing jobs supported per vehicle."
Per your friend's flag-waving argument, bet he doesn't think of a Honda
(Ridgeline, Odyssey, or Pilot) as American-made. It's a Honda so it
must be foreign despite assembly is in Lincoln, AL. He blankets all
Subarus together as foreign despite the Impreza is now manufactured in
Indiana. Have him read:
My old semi-blueprinted Ford Mustang '82 with aspirated 302 (5 L) V8
with soft compound tires will easily outrace my stock '17 Subie 2.5 L
Outback. The CVT is nice in the Subie for everyday or casual driving
but I still like handling my Stang's stick. I can work on my Stang.
The Subie is a bitch so let the shop do that work. Different cars for
different purposes. One is for fun. The other is for everyday
commuting. On my friend's farm, we use a tractor for other purposes.
Just beware that you don't become a flag-waving uber-patriot of a brand
as is obviously your friend. So what is this Ford that your friend is
so proud about? Where do the parts come from that are in his Ford?
Where did the materials come from to build those parts that got imported
back to America to build his Ford?
Print this post and put it in your friend's hand. Can your friend read?
He certainly hasn't kept up on what's going on in newspapers, magazines,
I got on this topic with a friend some time back and pointed out that
Subaru has been making cars in Indiana for more than 25 years. My 1992
Legacy Wagon was made there, and of course so was my 2013 Outback.
I loved my 4.6L V8 Mustang GT convertible with 5-speed, dark metallic
red paint, and a black leather interior. Everyone should own a red
Mustang convertible at some point in their life. Still, I sold the
'stang and kept my turbo WRX: So much more pleasurable and satisfying
to drive. I say that having some 750,000 miles of driving experience.
The Mustang was for show; the WRX is for go.
On 2017-10-21 02:18:23 +0000, VanguardLH said:
Current solid content numbers seem to be hard to come by. Back in 2009 an
Outback had 55% U.S.-Canadian content. IIRC Subaru was announced that whey
would be raising the percentage and I believe they did but I can't come up
with any verifiable numbers to back that up.
But to look at it a slightly different way, in 2015 it appears that the
most 'American' car, a GMC Acadia, was only at 75%.
And looking at it another way, the Acadia doesn't have the most stellar
but the Outback is way more reliable
Just print out the replies, find your friend, say "Oh, as for Subaru not
being American and Ford being American, read these and educate
yourself." Don't grin. Don't ridicule. Just be calm. Not everyone
knows everything about every product they use.
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