How to tell if mount plate for struts are worn?

1992 Subaru Legacy L AWD non-turbo non-ABS wagon

I've been looking around to see what the parts would cost for fixing my suspension ails. The bumps are hard on my butt, much harder than a few years ago. It's like the springs are sagging so I'm bottoming out or maybe the struts are failing. It rides okay and handles in the turns okay but the bumps are jarring my fillings loose.

I found

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for one online store (there are loads of them but seem to be front ends to the same few catalogs) but I don't know yet if they have the best prices or are a reliable store (or what brand parts they are selling). To do the front and rear suspensions, I got a shopping list of (numbers rounded): Front: Coil spring (right); qty. 1, $63 Coil spring (left); qty. 1, $63 Strut (right); qty. 1, $105 Strut (left); qty. 1, $105 Upper strut mount; qty 2., $53 each

Rear: Coil spring; qty. 2, $63 each Strut (right); qty. 1, $108 Strut (left); qty. 1, $108 Strut bumper; qty. 2, $24 each Strut dust shield; qty. 2, $14 each Strut mount (right); qty. 1, $86 Strut mount (left); qty. 1, $86

If I got all the parts, the front would cost $428 and the rear would cost $549 (for a total of $977 for all four corners). Now I see why the shops were quoting their prices around $1200 (I forgot to ask them if it included the alignment). What I'm wondering is, if I do this myself, how to determine if I really need the coil springs and strut mounts.

I've been recommended to go to a body shop to have them measure the ride height (unloaded) which would indicate if the springs were sagging? Is that true? Is it an adequate test? All 4 struts were replaced 5 years ago but not the springs so the springs are the originals that are 14 years old. Bouncing on the corners won't tell me how good are the springs, just maybe how good are the struts.

When taking it apart, how would I know if I need the strut mounts (i.e., the plates at the top with the sleeve bearing)? Could I tell if they were worn? Could I tell if they were loose (i.e., so the top of the strut wobbles around)?

Could be to do a decent job that all these parts need to be replaced. At that point, I'd rather pay the extra $230 (both front & rear) to let the shop do all the grunt work. But if I don't need the springs, strut plates, and strut bumpers, I'd chop $232 off the fronts and $346 off the rears (or $578 total saved, or a total expense in parts only of $477). The difference between $1200 (parts & labor) and $477 (parts only), or $723, is enough to make me plan on doing them myself. I'm not sure what the shop was going to replace (i.e., if they might try reusing old parts) or if all the parts would get replaced.

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Vanguard
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Likely the springs are OK. Anyway, you could try OEM at discounted prices from

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. Also,
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(and other sites) have SOME aftermarket parts for legacys (like KYB struts) I think.

Carl

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Carl 1 Lucky Texan

Oh yeah, springs from a low mileage wrecked vehicle might be a good alternative for you. Not the struts though.

Carl

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Carl 1 Lucky Texan

Prices there are always higher because all I find for parts are the performance parts. Not interested in lowering or stiffening my ride.

Mostly performance parts again. Springs that lower. They have a KYB

4-pack for struts looks okay for price.
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Vanguard

Yeah, we have a U-Pull-R-Parts place (2 sites) in our area that are handy to go grabbing parts off of

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Already got a fender (still need the other one), hood, and both headlamp assemblies from them. We didn't have the tools to go after the springs. They do put them up on blocks (well, they're steel wheels welded together so I'm not crawling underneath). Since these yards only carry cars that are over 10 years old (so mine qualifies at 14 years), the mileage is high enough that I don't go for the parts that wear. The Subies that I saw all had over 50K on them. Trying to find Subies at the other yards has been fruitless so far except for one 150 miles away.

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Vanguard

Try 1stsubaruparts.com they have Genuine OEM parts at awesome prices.

Just from a quick glance for the front -

Front strut - $83.96 Spring - $44 Mount - $41

As for being able to tell whether it's worn or not - depends on mileage and where you live. Suspension parts tend to get rusty

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Dmitriy

Try emailing Jamie through subarugenuineparts . She's great and can probably help you. The site is kinda odd in that they run 2-3 seperate catalogs and the springs you want are likely in the crash repair whatever catalog. Or, try posting a WTB (want to buy) over at

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and someone who is upgrading their suspension would likely sell their stock takeoffs cheap. Someone may even have some laying around already - check the For sale ads too. The KYB struts are, I believe, direct replacemnts - not really 'performance'. Though, keep in mind, even new stock parts will likely feel much 'stiffer' if the current gear is worn out.

Carl

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Carl 1 Lucky Texan

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