Price rip-off

Know what the generic code says but that is the code that pops up when cel comes on shortly after filling the tank. Manual says loose gas cap can cause cel to come on but no mention of what code made be posted. Up to this point, tightening and/or cleaning the cap has caused the cel to go off.

Mickey

Mickey wrote: Don't see how dealer price encourages customers to shop at dealer. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I went to the dealer for a car key. Parts department charged my $8, and sent me to the service department to have it cut, where they were going to charge me an additional $5. I went down the street to a locksmith, where I got a key for $3, including the cutting. So my experience agrees with yours.

Are you guys new here, on a mission from Mars?

I've yet to see ANY brand of cars that sold genuine, branded replacement parts cheaper than aftermarket brands.

Key cutting? Any hardware store, home center, Wal-Mart, etc... will cut a typical key for $2-3 US. Do you call the builder when you need a extra front door key?

Barry

I've found a few places that don't stock the Subaru keys. Or don't stock them for a certain year range. Thus, a dealer trip might be unavoidable.

-Matt

Bonehenge wrote: (clip) Do you call the builder when you need

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I guess not. One reason is that my home builder does not have a stockroom full of spare house parts. Nor a parts counter, with employees trained to look things up in a computerized catalog, and locate them on the shelf. And he is not trying to make a profit on parts and service. It is reasonable to assume that someone who is doing all these things is hoping to get my future business, and make a profit from it. But as things are, the only business he is going to get from me will be on items that are not available anywhere else. (He made nothing on the key he sold me, because I returned it for a full refund.)

I am through with my rant, now--heading back to Mars, where car dealers act differently.

dealers

Parts is a huge source of revenue for dealers, and frankly it needs to be. Do you think they make any money selling you a car? Not like they used to 10 or 20 years ago -- the margins are very thin. Dealerships make money on sales and service (and used cars).

As for your $13 dollar key (from the dealer), I snapped the key to my

2002 Accord and had another one made when it was in for an oil change, the key was more than the oil change (about $35) and I *had* to get it at the dealer cause it had a chip in it. Go lose a key for a VW and then be thankful your Subaru has a cheap ass key in it (which is why I said no to the alarm in this car, what good is an alarm in a car whose key can be cut for $3 at walmart?)

car dealerships need to make money. i'm guessing on mars they all sell direct?

Which is why the first Henry Ford said that he would be happy to give people a Model T if they agreed to *only* buy parts and service from the company. Cheers

snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote: clip) what good is an alarm in a car whose key can be cut for $3 at walmart?)(clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John, maybe I'm dense, but I don't understand your thinking here. To get a key cut at Walmart requires two things: 1.) $3, 2.) a key.

Of course. But that's AFTER you'd try the cheap place on the corner, No?

Barry

First of all, you can't make a key unless you have a key, or the skills of a locksmith and enough time to hand cobble a key.

The Subaru alarm will still sound if the window is smashed, the car is hit, or the door is opened WITH THE KEY, if the alarm is armed.

On my '01 OBW, if the alarm is armed and you open the door, it goes off. The car will not start until the alarm is disarmed.

No chip, no problem. Even with the chip, don't Hondas top the most stolen vehicle lists? Thieves that really want a car will take the car, any car.

Barry

I don't know if it is true, but a coworker said his key (with chip) costs way over $100! Yowza!

Yeah some of those keys are downright outrageous. The thing to remember is that if someone wants your vehicle badly enough, they WILL take it. Or at least another one just like it. The crazy keys are simply a deterrent, not a prevention, and when every car of that model has one, it just forces the thieves to be a little more crafty.

-Matt

Just another incentive to 'jack' someone outta the vehicle they're driving.

Carl

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Hallraker wrote:

Well there's a tool out there that can prevent that. It fits in your fist, holds several small objects called "bullets", and in some places can be carried in a concealed manner. ;)

-Matt