No, mine works fine here in the USA. I suspect it's a case of insufficient
either on the part of the consumer, or on the part of Subaru technicians who
know how to really repair a malfunction in that system. After I got used
to how it
worked, (about 4 months driving) I couldn't be happier (so long as it keeps
It shouldn't take FOUR MONTHS to figure out how the climate control works.
Subaru climate control is very poorly designed.
I had to create my own fix - see the link below:
Nah, it is simply that I have never before owned an automatic
climate control system in an auto. Also, that I didn't read the
book very much, and I don't work at it for hours on end.
I just experimented to see what seems to work.
Result: the system seems to work fine. A click up, a click down, it
nicely. I can't imagine a need for your "system" to blow air down the
Bottom line: my USA model Forester works quite well, without modification.
Sorry, but that's the situation here!
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The car I owned and drove primarily before buying my Forester was a 2000
Oldsmobile Intrigue. Its automatic climate control worked perfectly: Set
the digital display at 68 degrees (in the winter -- I'd set it at 72 in the
summer) and the car was magically comfortable all the time. The first time
I set out in my new Forester, I set the manual dial at what should
correspond to 68. It was about 25 degrees F outside. Once the engine
warmed up, the thing started blowing desert-hot air full blast. It kept
this up until I was uncomfortably warm, at which time I started to turn the
dial down. When it got to about 64 the system seemed to be blowing air at
the correct temp. I figured this must be the setting that would be
comfortable for me in this particular car. But about 5 minutes later, I
noticed I was shivering. So I turned the dial back up, to warm up the car.
And so began the irritation -- "chore" seemed too harsh a description -- of
having to constantly tweak the temp knob up and down to keep myself
The Forester's slow reaction to cabin temperature continues to show
itself -- and to annoy me. And I've owned two other cars (in addition to
the Olds) with automatic climate control systems -- a 1989 and 1990 Audi.
Both of these car's systems were as "set and forget" as that in the Olds.
So I'm *not* new to automatic climate control systems, and perhaps therefore
have a bit higher expectation of the system.
I remember being 16 and absolutely thrilled at owning a car that would just
start and move me down the road. It was 1985 and the car was a 1982 Ford
Escort and an AM-only radio, a 4-speed non-OD manual transmission, and a
wimpy 1.6L engine -- not to mention being seriously deficient in the
then-important "cool" department. I'm pretty sure I'd be less thrilled with
a similar car today, despite placing much less importance on "coolness" than
I did at 16. Point being, we tend to resist moving from something better to
I checked out the gentleman's pre-fab fan kit, and have decided I can build
my own for a lot less than the $60 he wants for his. My only problem is
finding a supplier that sells a tiny 17mm muffin fan. Once I find one, I'll
make my own voltage controller, cut the ears off the discharge side of the
fan, and stick it in the little tube. (And I'll probably add a little
switch so I can turn it off if the sound of the fan ever becomes annoying.)
Yeah, I could survive without it. But why should I?
If and when I locate a supplier for the 17mm fan, I'll post it here. I'll
even post an electronic schematic so you can make your own voltage
- Greg Reed
Err, perhaps I should have said "experience" rather than knowledge.
For example, today, in manual mode, I was warm in our boiling sun. I
cool/heat knob all the way CCW (or full COOL mode). The air got very cool.
then turned one click back toward hot. Then another, and another. After
four clicks, the air grew warmer, as you would expect it to. It did NOT
even feel warm until after crossing from "blue" to "red" zone. As you'd
Folks who say theirs goes from cool to hot in that first click appear to
malfunction. To accept the excuse, "it's a design feature" is a lack of
Would it behave like the above in full AUTO mode? Yep, it has so far.
"Get used to how it worked"? The essence of a automatic climate control, it
seems to me, is you set it and forget it. There's no "getting used"
necessary. It should be a no-brainer.
Indeed that's how the system worked in the '99 Accord V6 that my Forester
replaced, and it's the way the system in my Volvo S60 works. The Volvo is
the best--we don't even think about it because it just maintains the desired
I'm in the US, also, and mine does NOT "work fine." It needs frequent
adjustment, and there's no correspondence I can tell between the temp
settings on the dial and the real-world temperature. I'm going to point out
this problem when I go in Friday for my second oil change, but I'm not
Despite this glitch, and the less-than-wonderful gas mileage, I still love
my XT Premium!
I had a Volvo 850 with climate control for 8 years and in all those years I
switched it to manual control only a couple of times, in order to defrost the
Now I have an Infiniti with climate control, and it has an annoying habit of
switching on the dash vents in chilly weather.
The Forester doesn't have climate control so that's not a concern.
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)
Okay, Hal. Sorry yours isn't working well. Mine is (and I am not sorry
And sorry I am so slow to get used to an automatic feature. I didn't read
very much of the book before taking a long trip. Oh, I took a long time
to get used to my home computer's capability, also. I guess there are
some benefits to not being young and impatient anymore.
My Forester maintains the temp approximately where I set it.
(I do not use a calibrated thermometer to check it, however. I use "my
comfort" as my gauge.)
I simply can not understand how so many systems do not work and
the Subie mechanics just tell you it is designed that way.
GTT, glad you're satisfied. As for the benefits of not being so young and
impatient anymore, though I continue to be on the impatient side, I assure
you that I no longer qualify for the "young" excuse!
I think the guy who advertised here the kit to install a small fan in that
sensor duct is onto something. I know my Volvo has such devices on its
climate control sensors and, as I said, the Volvo system truly is
set-and-forget automatic, as I was thus spoiled to expect of the Forester.
Alas, the Forester, despite my great liking for it, is not in the same price
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