OK - I thought it was 16 quarts. I was thinking of putting down "4 gallons", and then I totally got it wrong. :-)
Sounds like Porsche is recommending the oil be changed every 15K miles, and the cartridge oil filter changed every 30K miles. It's got about twice the typical oil capacity of similar displacement engines. Then they can use as much oil between changes as the capacity.
I think most US oils meet those specs now. Certainly the synthetics must. I don't see Euro auto dealers importing special oils and they are still maintaining the euro drain intervals.
I think you're mistaken.
Or maybe just a check here and there for a typical consumer to see what sort of intervals they can run in a particular engine... or maybe reliance on people who've done that testing and suggest those intervals (e.g. the auto manufacturer).
As an aside - I received a email message directly from the person referred to in the following posts:
I won't post the message sent to me. However - it did hint that I should avoid preventative maintenance lest I hurt myself, and made a big deal about my mistake with quarts/gallons.
Message to your home account from Tom Chudzinski! Har. Been a while since I've had those. What a charmer, eh? FTR, yeah, Audi 5000 front strut inserts _can_ be change out the top, strut still installed on the car.
Steve x-1982 Audi Coupe x-1984 Audi 5000S
audifans.com is the place for, well...audifans.
Water off a duck's back. I did a little checking, and understand his internet personna.
I'm thankful for the internet - you learn something new every day. Turns out the ACEA specs seem to be divided into categories for normal and extended use. So the extended-use category is ACEA A3.
Still - sorry about the Porsche Boxster oil thing. I remember an old Mobil 1 commercial (narrated by Patrick Stewart?) where it said something about every Boxster leaving with 16 quarts of Mobil 1. I think it might have been 16 bottles in the trunk, because the engine might just use that much between oil changes. :-)
Much easier solution: Tell yourself that you enjoy climbing under the vehicle. Get all fired up and climb under there and use the drain plug. Get the job done.....
Through the dipstick tube?
Sounds like a bum's way of pissing in public!
Refinish King
"Refinish King" had writtennews:7db1c.415$ snipped-for-privacy@fe03.usenetserver.com:
I would suggest taking it in to a shop and have the oil changed properly if you don't want to get dirty. You can't get the sludge out properly by sucking it out from a tiny dipstick tube and you'll get dirty replacing the filter any way.
I would hope there is no sludge. There's none in my engines. And BTW, almost all pleasure boats (with stern drives) use the dipstick sucking method of changing the oil. It's the ONLY way. I agree, it wouldn't work on an automobile, because they're not plumbed properly. And it would also be foolish to do it that way on an automobile or truck.
"Steve Barker" had writtennews:raP1c.30920$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:
Perhaps not sludge but the dipstick does not touch the bottom of the pan. I even use a magnetic plug to check for fillings. The oil filter will get dirty as soon as the engine is started. Dirty oil has to be left in the engine using that method.
Yep, there is no way in hell to drain the oil via the plug on either of our Baja's. They sell a little hose deal with plug that you can install and pass thru the transom to drain the oil but you would have to pull the engine to install it. We have sucked the oil out of the dipstick tubes a bunch. Goes pretty fast once you are accustomed to it. Would I do it on any of my street vehicles? Hell no.
The tubing that goes with the pump most certainly goes to the bottom of the pan on our Audi A4 and Lexus RX330. On both you can feel the tubing hit the bottom of the pan.
If dirty oil is left in the engine, please explain how when I remove the drain plug after using the oil extraction via the dipstick, no additional oil (actually a few drips) comes out???
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I am not here to fight with you. Use your method and I.ll let gravity do mine. I get dirty doing the lube and pulling the filters any way. SORRY I responded. Time to leave what I thought was a friendly news group. Been on it less then a week and already found it's not one to learn but spurn.
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