Justifying an impact wrench for infrequent hobby use

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WD40, in both the Popular Mechanics and Machinist's Workshop product test, clearly performed the worst as a penetrating oil (but then again, they didn't attempt to use syrup, honey or molasses) and likely less effectively than benzene and brake fluid. Recommending that which was formulated primarily as a water dispersant and corrosion inhibitor, for use as a well known and accepted, poorly performing penetrating oil, is tantamount to advising the use of chewing gum as a worthwhile bonding agent.

My issue, if that's the correct term, with the "homebrew" is its lack of aerosolization. That latter, in combination with the ingredients of the earlier mentioned GM penetrant, results in a persistent adherent foaming that remains in place longer without requiring as continuous a re-application of the product.

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Heron
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IMO, you're both full of it. "aerosolization" means nothing to a rusted fastener. WD40 is a crescent wrench joke. Get real.

Reply to
Vic Smith

I'm only referring to its retention on, instead of immediately dripping off of, the "rusted fastener" such as a brake bleeder screw. If you've not already done so, you might want to actually try the GM product for yourself or research others independent unfailingly favorable experience with it before expressing a critical opinion of it out of hand; I'll be more than happy to accept your sheepish apology :)

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Heron

I won't go that far (-: I see your point about the foaming keeping "something" in place, but any advantage to that is offset by the aerosol spraying all over the place. I have no problem using a liquid and a rag to catch excess. But I do admit I've been using the aerosols for years now, because that's what's on the shelves. Still need a rag. It's a tempest in a teapot anyway. Nobody can compare this stuff well, and most of it is voodoo. I use "penetrants" because it's de rigueur. Never really noticed it helping more than a shot of motor oil and the requisite hammer taps to break corrosion bonds. But that's just me, and some might have more "experience." I don't allow WD40 in my garage or house. It's useless.

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Vic Smith

While the ?W-D? in WD-40 stands for Water Displacement, WD-40 Multi- Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants. The product?s formulation also contains anti-corrosion agents and ingredients for penetration, water displacement and soil removal.

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gpsman

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PB-Blaster I have found to be orders of magnitude better than WD-40. WD-40 might work 5 out of 100 times. PB-Blaster is probably 1 out 2 or

  1. The article appears not to be online or behind a paywall or it's some browser issue with their website. Anyway if a fastener will break free with 'get a bigger wrench' then I am not too concerned with what any fluid does to the force required other than if the bigger wrench doesn't fit in the space. A real world test has 'broke fastener' for the nothing applied IMO.

Reply to
Brent

i think we're witnessing a cultural schism here dude. those that use impact tools, and those that don't. if you don't use impacts, i guess you'll resort to lotions and potions.

Reply to
jim beam

Google,,, What does WD 40 mean? Water Displacement 40th attempt.

Reply to
JR

Just remembering that I got into a discussion with you makes feel all icky. You are really weird. BTW, do you know what a sciolist is? Of course, I think even that is giving you too much credit.

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Bill Vanek

The GM stuff is ridiculously pricey but also remarkably effective, or I wouldn't bother to have it available, so I use it quite sparingly, just enough to coat the application. I've never wasted it on items that should and do get replaced anyway, like inexpensive exhaust pipe hardware. There are things on which I, for one, have never chosen to abuse or deploy impact tools upon, such as devices in contact with bearings, thin wall tubing, hollow bolts and other relatively fragile threaded items. But then again my lineage stems from a long line of careful, meticulous watchmakers.

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Heron

yeah, you're princess anastasia's ninth cousin, fourth removed too. oh, the beauty of usenet.

fact is, if you ever bothered to understand the principle of an impact driver, they don't apply torque over a large arc like a manual wrench. thus, they're the tool of choice for thin wall tube, etc. they repeatedly /shock/ the fastener over a minute angle, they don't wrench it once over many.

that's how torque limitation on these things work: if they were on a manual wrench, output torque = input torque because the application angle is effectively infinite.

Reply to
jim beam

no idea. but i'm not surfing the online thesaurus or posting useless non-technical crap to usenet on the company dime either.

Reply to
jim beam

Forget the battery ones. Get a good used electric or better still and infinitely more useful, get a compressor and air impact gun. 9/10 times when I use my cordless tools the batteries are not charged enough.

Reply to
mark

that's typical of the cheap cordless systems. the good stuff is entirely different.

Reply to
jim beam

Do a Google for, CJ3B page rusted nuts and bolts

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JR

jim beam wrote in news:ju3tfj$pah$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Ha ha ahhahhahahhahahah yea, I don`t insult you I just call you stupid and dumb!!!!!! Jimmy you can`t even go one line without proving his statement. What a work of art!! KB

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Kevin Bottorff

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Nate Nagel

That craven, insolent poseur is the very epitome of a stooge, the most risible aspect possibly being his glaringly obvious, stark inability to recognize the utter transparency of his most conspicuous insecurity. Why anyone would begin to bother to so much as graciously provide him with the time of day entirely escapes the narrow limits of my capacity to comprehend.

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Heron

"In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry, in a small lab in San Diego, California.

It took them 40 attempts to get the water displacing formula worked out. But they must have been really good, because the original secret formula for WD-40®.which stands for Water Displacement perfected on the 40th try.is still in use today."

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Also, from your own cite: Myth: WD-40 contains Stoddard Solvent. Fact: Over the past few decades, the name Stoddard Solvent was synonymous with all mineral spirits. Today, the mineral spirits found in products like ours are more refined and processed (see hydrogenation, hydrotreating and distillation techniques) providing mixtures with varying boiling points, cleaning ability, and chemical composition.

The catchall phrase .Stoddard Solvent. is no longer adequate to tell the proper story. WD-40 does indeed have 50% mineral spirits, but they are refined and purified for specific characteristics needed to meet today.s performance, regulatory, and safety requirements.

It's only at least 50% sovlent!

thanks for the laugh gpstroll.

It gets even funnier: "Myth: WD-40 Multi-Use Product should not be used on bike chains. Fact: While WD-40 Multi-Use Product it is not a grease, it is formulated with strong lubricating oils and other ingredients, and is a terrific product to use for bike maintenance. It does not attract dirt or moisture to metal surfaces . just be sure to wipe off any excess WD-40 Multi-Use Product before riding. For long-term lubrication, a specialized bicycle lubricant may be used."

WD-40 for a bike chain... only if you hate your bicycle!

Reply to
Brent

WTF? This is rec.autos.tech, not rec.james.joyce. "He's an asshole" will suffice.

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Vic Smith

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