Need your advice on a good inside automotive tire patch

They used to sell those for just this purpose. Probably at JCWhitney. Havent' seen one for sale for 20 or 30 years.

I had an occasion where the hole was showing and it was just as easy to patch it on the car as off. The car was here, not on the road.

Another occasion when I couldn't get the tire off, but in that case the hole wasn't showing or I didn't have any strings with me. I forget.

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Micky
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I carried a 12 v compressor for years when flat tires were more common. Never had to use it for a flat as I recall, but it came in handy for pumping up slow leaks, and after plugging a couple tires. I cut off the cig lighter plug and simply extended the cord with an old 20' extension cord, and added alligator clips. Always hooked it up directly to my battery. Small package, but slow to pump. Prefer a foot operated pump. Carried canned air for a while, and used it one time for a nail puncture until I could get home and plug it. I swear it's been 20 years since I've had a flat.

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Vic Smith

You save bimmer I say beemer.... All I know about the subject is the Hells Angels came here on their summer run. Despite the massive police overreaction, they minded their own business and it was an uneventful weekend. When the BMW riders came to town, not so much.

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rbowman

And you druve Bimmer!

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Tony Hwang

Truth is, most of us don't give a damn. 90% of the owners are snobs no matter what you call a BMW.

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Ed Pawlowski

Ed Pawlowski wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 14:11:17 -0500:

That you don't give a damn is perfectly acceptable. That you think BMW owners are all snobs, is just as acceptable.

I was just answering the question because someone asked what the difference was between a bimmer and a beemer (and, anyone who knows the least bit about them, already knows the difference).

Once I answered the question, we should have been done with this discussion.

If, after being told the simple answer, they *still* want to call it the wrong thing, then that's up to them. Not me.

If they want to call a tire a wheel, who am I to argue with them? If they want to call a nail a screw, who am I to argue with them? If they want to call a wheelcover a hubcap, who am I to argue with them? etc.

I was simply answering the question.

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Danny D.

Oren wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 10:36:10 -0800:

Hi Oren,

The number of posts don't matter (that just means I'm responsive). What matters is what *we* learn. Together. And, how we help each other.

And I *always* appreciate your help and that from the others! And, well, I learned far too much today!

Bad news! The tire is ruined.

Why? I'm soooooooo stupid. So very stupid. It's all my fault.

However, the good news is that I *learned* a lot! And, there's much (much) more to learn about patching tires properly!

I have to run to pick up my sister's kids (they're staying with us "temporarily" for the past year - which is ok with me - as long as my sister's latest loser boyfriend doesn't get on our nerves!), so I haven't uploaded the pictures yet, but, I'm gonna *experiment* with the tire, since I ruined it already.

It turns out that a proper patch requires some special tools and materials, such as explained in this quickie procedure.

  1. Mark the hole outside and inside (circle 1/2" outside patch area)
  2. Inspect for damage (no visible treads on the inside)
  3. Probe the angle & thickness of the hole with a tapered awl
  4. Optionally put down a solvent to remove the inside coat
  5. Optionally use a half-moon scraper to scrape to vulcanized rubber
  6. Buff with a semicircular tire-buffing wheel (2500to5000rpm only!)
  7. CRITICAL! Three passes both ways with a carbide cutter!
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Danny D.

AWD has 3 differentials. Different diameter tires cause the differentials to "work" all the time. If they have limited slip or traction control, the different sized wheels turn at different speeds and confuse the heck out of everything.

Not yet - but next year. And ALL cars with dynamic stability control tell you you need to have all tires matching.

But what the heck - it's your car. Drive with 4 different sized tires and pay your repair bills.

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clare

You didn't need 1.5 oz to static and 4 to dynamic balance - so you got lucky. (and you haven't had all 5 on the front yet either - you might still get a surpeise!!

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clare

You were never in MY shop!!!

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clare

That may be location specific. Around here they can both be bimmers, or beemers - And they are often called a lot worse!!!

Same company - so same name.

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clare

A lot easier on a dynamic balancer.

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clare

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:22:27 -0500:

You seem to have everything wrong, but I don't know where you get your ideas from.

I was never talking about putting the wrong *size* on the car or even different sizes on the same axle, or even on different axles.

If you inferred that, I never said (nor implied it).

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Danny D.

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:24:13 -0500:

I never disputed the inherent value of dynamic balancing.

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Danny D.

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:26:51 -0500:

Let's stop discussing this because there is a well known description which I pointed folks to, which clearly shows what aficionados call the thing in the US and in the UK.

In other countries, their typical customs and norms will prevail. Remember, I didn't bring this up.

Someone asked. I explained.

They asked for clarification. I provided a reliable reference.

They either accept the answer or they don't. There's nothing more for me to tell them.

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Danny D.

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clare

Because you don't know the anatomy of Subaru system yet.

Most likely causing damage.

When differential gets busted.

One hint Subaru system does not have power torque. Ever driven xDrive? That is BMW system. Try it once and experience power torque. Jeeps too. Ever do off-roading? Some times ignorance is even dangerous.

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Tony Hwang

What's the difference between a BMW and a Porcupine??

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clare

It is a BMW whether it has 2 wheels or 4. Bimmer or Beemer are both just bastardizations of the same name. You want to think there is a difference, go right ahead., If a Boston Beaner says Bimmer it'll come out Beemer anyway.

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clare

I just shake my head. I thought Bimmer drivers are some intelligent people who understand basics of vehicle. When you mount tires you rotate tires on the wheel to minimize the use of balancing weight.

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Tony Hwang

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