I've got what could possibly be a genius idea, or really retarded. I would like to add a relay harness and E-code lights to a vehicle, but making a harness from scratch is kind of a pain in the butt. then I realized that a light harness requires either two or three conductors depending on whether we're talking about headlights or driving lights, and that 12AWG is darn near perfect for the application, and extension cords are readily available in those configurations. So will SJTO cord hold up under the hood of a vehicle, or is that a dumb idea and I should stick with the traditional method of buying three individual spools of wire in the correct colors, harness tape/split loom, etc.? I have in the past restored some old Studebaker (Stewart-Warner) pulse-drive tach senders using similar extension cord wire, because that appears to be what S-W originally used, but obviously headlights, fog lights, etc. are more mission critical than making sure your tachometer is working, and I haven't got any feedback from the few that I sold as to long term durability (obviously the originals must have worked for a decade or two though, and this was back in the 50's) Also, so I know what to look for online and/or at the supply house, does anyone know what the code is for the typical wiring used under the hood of a car? It's obviously more flexible than, say, stranded THHN like you'd use in a commercial application and I'm assuming has a higher-temp rated, oil resistant insulation. thanks for any opinions... nate

you only need something that is 85°C or better for lighting. unless it's wired through a really hot part of the engine compartment. strand count and strand gauge determine your flexibility, not so much insulation. you'd be surprised how inflexible insulation can become after a couple of decades of heat, yet the harnesses continue to do their job perfectly well. but all this begs the question - why on earth are you skimping buying cheapo for something like this? what is your total saving? $2? just give yourself some reliability, buy some appropriately stranded 105°C online, all the color options you can imagine, and do it right. sheesh.

don't get me wrong, i'm no advocate of buying crap made in china, but this: is the same quality as this: only without the price tag. and for any ratcheting crimper under about $150, they're /all/ made in china, so why overpay?

SJTO or similar for underhood wiring?

Dec 31, 2011 43 Replies

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jim beam 14 years ago

you can't read. and i was chastising you, retard.

talking of bullshit, that would be you speaking without experience.

dude, for $13, are you out of your freakin' mind? wait, you don't have a mind.

funny how you keep wriggling and twisting back and forth because you're not man enough to pick one argument and stand by it. but then again, because you don't know what you're talking about, i can see you wanting to get out from under the bullshit you keep piling.

you do it to yourself, retard.

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jim beam 14 years ago

don't get me wrong, i'm no advocate of buying crap made in china, but this:

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is the same quality as this:

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only without the price tag. and for any ratcheting crimper under about $150, they're /all/ made in china, so why overpay?

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Brent 14 years ago

That's what I figured he was getting at and tried to explain the difference between that and a stress concentration.

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jim beam 14 years ago

still too dishonest to man up to the facts brent? same old same old retard for 2012!

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