How can I tell if these bolts are stainless steel or not?
But how do I know if they're stainless short of purposefully rusting them by dipping them in acid?
How can I tell if these bolts are stainless steel or not?
But how do I know if they're stainless short of purposefully rusting them by dipping them in acid?
There are a lot of stainless steels. Some are more magnetic than others, corrosion resistance varies widely. Short answer = no general answer:
Can't tell from looking, but they look very shiny, like a plating. I'd see what a magnet does, though some alloys are somewhat magnetic.
As others point out some grades of stainless are magnetic.
Looking it up I see there are tests you can run:
https://www.waterbottle.tech/simple-methods-for-identifying-stainless-steel/ Been a long time but I remember running tests on various grades to see if they would stand up to making polymers under highly acidic conditions. You might do something similar to see if they will hold up under the use you are putting them to.
If the pic is of the actual bolts... The bolts do not look like stainless - they look like low quality steel bolts plated with zinc. The manufacturing looks poor. IMO, they are the 13 cent variety, not the $1.13 variety. Same for the nuts. They are the 5 cent variety, not the 55 cent variety. There is low quality stainless but I have never seen that used in nuts and bolts. Threaded pieces are normally 18-8 or better and have better machining.
Whar are the tip-offs in the picture that they ared ow quality?
It's difficult to say for sure with out viewing the head markings or seeing better photos. It could be the small pixel count of the photo or the zinc plating, but... the machining just does not look crisp / sharp. There are striations on the bolt head and nut that are not seen on quality bolts and nuts. The nut appears to be much thinner than a good quality nut.
There are good fasteners, crappy fasteners, and the very worst, electrician-grade fasteners.
Striations are a bad sign and so are threads that aren't cut sharply, or even worse appear to be rolled rather than cut.
--scott
You're right, it's difficult to say with certainty. There are chemical and spark tests which I linked in a reply the other day which are much better than images.
Here are M5 ULS stainless we sell in a parts packet:
Having had experience with high quality bolts would be a start. Then look at the thread - that is visibly of poor quality, as is the shaping of the head of the bolt. Overall, looks like cheap Chinese s*it!
Rolled threads can have some advantages over cut threads. It depends on the material and the application. They are not always inferior.
I never thought of looking at the head of the bolt, which does have soem "secret code" written on it as you can see in the photo of the head here.
Thanks for looking at the threads. Here's a clearer picture of them.
Grade 4.8 is a standard for fasteners like bolts, screws, and studs, which are made from low or medium carbon alloy steel. The numbers on fasteners, such as 4.8, 8.8, 10.9, or 12.9, indicate the tensile strength in the first digit and the yield strength in the second digit.
Here are some characteristics of Grade 4.8 fasteners: Tensile strength: For low carbon steel, the tensile strength is around
420 Mpa, and for medium carbon steel, it's around 500 Mpa.Core hardness: The core hardness is between B71–95 on the Rockwell scale.
Size range: The size range for a fully or partially annealed Grade 4.8 screw is between M5 to M100.
Uses: Grade 4.8 fasteners are used in mechanical equipment, buildings, bridges, tunnels, and high speed railways.
Strength: Grade 4.8 bolts are commonly referred to as high strength bolts.
Metric low grade carbon steel bolt:
QJ shows up in places but it's never explained what it means when it does.
BOLT 5131014179 QJ 4.8
Metric Grade 4.8 is the key information.
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Thanks for all the kind help from all you wonderful folks. You were all right. The seller lied to me about the bolts.
I left the bolts outside in the rain and they rusted already.
Suitable for a car perhaps. Or maybe only indoors. I don't know but they rusted already outdoors in the rain.
They're no good for outdoor use for an outdoor pole light as by the time I need to take it down, they'll be rusted up.
Ever been there before?
Oh yes!!! I bet that we all have been there before. Thank you for following up with the photo. I started using SS fasteners years ago for many things, but not all. Each metal and alloy has different properties and uses.
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