Toyota Quality ?

"TDI" is a trademark for a specific electronic fuel injection system with enhanced fuel control that Volkswagen has employed only in recent years. Volkswagen's earlier turbo charged diesels did not have this kind of fuel control.

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This invalidates the entire article.

90 day quality is meaningless as anything wrong at all on the car can be fixed under warranty.

Long-term is what matters.

My bad. I meant turbocharged diesels. VW knows them inside and out. Much better than they do gasoline engines, IMO.

Quality? No... They are second best at putting things together well enough that they don't break in 90 days. Great job on their part but as far as long term durability goes this article doesn't mean much.

I am amazed at how fart Hyundai has come in the last few years though. At one time they were just junk but the new ones have a good feel to them and I think they will make a decent car for those of us who can't afford the Toyota or Honda route.

Steve B.

And yet you claim to be in there getting dirty every day seeing all these things that aren't breaking. You're full of shit, Ileendoverhunt.

That will likely be on your grave stone, chucklehead. I suspect even your familiy knows this about you.

I agree with your statement as written.

DS

Just curious why you use so many e-mail addresses! ???????: snipped-for-privacy@mailcity.com...

LOL...me too...

Scott in Florida

cause Mike is so rich he can afford them....

Just ask him.....

ROFLMAO

Scott in Florida

"Scott in Florida"

LOL... Now if that isn't a Freudian slip I guess there never was one :-)

Steve B.

Oh, come on. Who among you has never poot a mistake in something you've written?

Seems Toyota is not the only one having trouble with high sulfur fuel.....

Oh wait for this long winded pile of bull, lets see if it's the same as what he said last time.

Why? It's certainly not $2k better. Once again, perceived quality.

While Philip may have been kidding, he's actually probably closer to the truth. Manufacturers will often extend their warranties after the public has gotten the impression that they (the mfr.) are building crap. Chrysler's 5-year, 50,000-mile warranties first showed up shortly after the dreadful (but, IMO, gorgeously decadent) piles of junk turned out from 1956-'61. Importers will often jack up the warranty to offer consumers the confidence that, "even if it breaks, we'll fix it for a long time". Once a mfr. has the status of a Toyota or a Honda, they don't *need* to offer long warranties; people will buy the cars *anyway*, so why take on that added responsibility?

Finally, in the overall scheme of things, a busted a/c system, while expensive and annoying, does *not* affect the basic function of the car as *reliable transportation*. Therefore, my advice to the OP is, quit whining and fix the damn car if you want it cool inside. If you want *perfection*, sell your car and see how perfect public transportation can be ...

-- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that)

Not to the average new car buyer it is not meaningless. The average new car buyer in the US doesn't keep their car past four years, according to the available statistics. Are we to infer that it is OK for things to fail as long as you don't have to pay the cost of repair. If so that is all the more reason one might look for a longer term warranty, it would seem.

mike hunt

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

"Average" is a very misleading statistic. It's distorted by all those fleet and lease vehicles getting turned at 2-3 years.

Or a better car.