$3.00 per gallon gasoline. Why is everyone so panicked?

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Yes, you would think that the sky is falling.

If you want to place blame, start with the ecos that won't let the oil companies build any new refineries, then blame the ecos that won't let us drill for our own oil, then blame the ecos that wouldn't let us build a new nuclear plant since 1986. So you see who to blame now???

PS: I like it when gas is $3, not so much traffic. I kind of wish it was more.

You say a lot of really funny things. "Efficient" and "clean" my ass. It creates waste products that are deadly poison to everyone and can't be neutralized for thousands of years.

Thank whoever it is that has been successful at making the horror story public knowledge, because they have save the lives of your descendants.

You make these things up as you go? Where do you get the idea that we can't explore for oil in Alaska? We've been drilling like crazy since the 1940s! Your ignorance is astounding.

Go ahead and blame whoever you feel like. You are just hiding your head in the sand and refusing to deal with reality.

Why did france continue to build nuclear power plants?

Why do other countries in general desperately want fuel to build these plants? Please, don't speak of the "bomb", you know I'm speaking of countries that are known friends of the world.

Yuka Mountain was designated as a waste disposal area for nuclear products from those plants. It's gigantic facility and very very safe.

Nuclear waste disposal is merely a political problem, not a scientific problem, in the US. The rest to the world is years ahead of US in producing their electricity with, safe, clean, efficient pollution free nuclear power and using technology developed in teh US to do so.

The environuts have prevented proper safer disposal nuclear waste in the US. As a result all of the nuclear material that has been used to generate electricity, from day one, still must be stored on site, under six feet of water. .

Ask any US sailor if they are afraid of the nuclear power they have used for

65 years. Only the ignorant or uninformed are afraid of nuclear power . ;)

mike

I suppose all those people who lived near Cheronoble are "ignorant or uninformed." Or dead. And for a period when Carter was President, people didn't think too much of nuclear power around your state capital, especially around an island that is about 5 km long. If I recall correctly, the nuclear power plants that were there no longer have a license to operate.

New designs have been made so that events like the ones I mentioned above are much less likely to happen. Both events were the result of human error, like not believing gauges. And reactors are better designed so that they shut off automatically when there is a loss of power to the cooling pumps or whatever.

It is not true that nuclear plants are totally clean. They make a lot of waste heat, which often ends up in streams. Fish don't like this too much, because oxygen dissolves better in cold water than warm water. There are other enviornmental costs, like the fuel used by the construction equipment, the trees that are cleared for power distribution, and the disposal of the plants after their useful life.

Nuclear waste is dangerous for thousands of years. I will be dust long before the nuclear waste has decomposed. Before finding a final resting place for it, we need to make sure that the resting place with be stable for thousands and thousands of years.

I didn't know the Navy used nuclear power during WWII (2007 - 65 = 1942 - just after the US joined the war). That was even before we bombed Japan with a nuclear bomb. Gee,and I thought all the subs and air craft carriers were diesel back in the war. I can't wait until the Intrepid is back in dock in NYC. I will ask to see the nuclear reactors. ;-)

Jeff

Is that the best you can do? Obviously I meant to type 45 years since the Nautilus was commissioned. Like I said only the ignorant or uninformed are afraid of nuclear power. To mention Chernobyl and Three Mile Island in the same breath proves one is indeed "ignorant or uninformed." The largest circulation newspaper the New York Daily News, back then, ran a front page headline the boldly proclaimed "Danger of Nuclear Explosion at TMI" that also proves the media is "ignorant or uninformed." as well.

Two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan and "People" still live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki since they were rebuilt after the war "People" still live near Chernobyl and the second reactor at TMI never was out of operation. It is currently providing folks in eastern Pa some of its low-cost, safe, efficient power, along with the Nuke plant up river at Berwick. ;)

Nuclear power currently supplies around 80% of the electricity in Japan, around 90% in France yet only 20% in the US. Conversely Bituminous coal, which IS pollution, provides around 53% in the US. If we can get to 80% 0r 90% the vast majority of our pollution will be eliminated

The environuts, who are so afraid of nuclear power, would prefer we breath only on every other day to reduce C02 to save the world from global warming ;)

mike

Considering all the things you get wrong (like the first digit of the VIN), it was obvious that you got the nuclear power use wrong. What you mean is not obvious, however. And it was 55 years ago, on Jan. 17, 1955 that the first nuclear sub was launched, not 45 as you said. You got it wrong twice. May I make a suggestion: Check things quickly on the internet before posting.

In years past, I read a lot about the TMI incident. The officials in charge did not know if the plant was going to blow up or not. I give President Carter a lot of credit for going there. And he knew the risks of nuclear power; he was qualified to command a Navy nuclear sub, but he left the service after his father died before he could become a sub skipper. Thank you for correcting me about TMI 2. I had thought it was decommissioned; obviously, I was mistaken.

Considering the risks of nuclear, I disagree that saying "Chernobyl and TMI" in the same breath as nuclear power is not ignorant. The risks are great. So is the potential for benefit. And people will remember the emergency at TMI and Chernobyl for a long time. Many people were killed at Chernobyl. And many people are expected to suffer from the emergency. Chernobyl was a result of poor management and oversight at a power plant.

I do have to take issue with your characterization of people as "environuts." There are a lot of people who are very concerned about the environment of this planet. Considering that we all have to breath the air on this planet, I don't think their concerns are unfounded, at all.

And many environmentalists are realizing that nuclear power is safe, cheap, and relatively clean. (No power is totally clean: even windmills kill birds and require fossil fuels to build and maintain them.)

Personally, I think nuclear power is the way to go. By using standardized designs, the cost of building and running the plants is relatively cheap. And the cost of review and licensing is cheap, too, because a group of twenty plants can be reviewed more cheaply than twenty different plants. And when safety issues come up at one plant, we will know how to fix all the plants.

However, there needs to be a long-term fix for the nuclear waste disposal problem. Yucca Mountain is not scheduled to open for about 10 years. And the Senate Majority Leader does not want the mountain to open ever.

Jeff

What's your point? Chernobyl was not a light or heavy water facility and it was not US technology, did not have a containment building. You comments appear ignorant or uninformed that keep going around in circles . In the nuclear sense a nuclear power plant can't "blow up" any differently than any other.

We al all environmentalists in that we do not want to $#it were we eat. The environuts on the other hand do not want us to eat so we don't need to deal with the $#it When one mentions nuclear power the environuts go.......well nuts Like I said from the beginning, nuclear waste disposal is a political problem not a scientific problem.

mike

Calling people names, like environuts is so kindergarten, Mike.

The technology of Chernobyl was different. The risks, however, of nuclear power are real.

Nuclear waste disposal is both a scientific problem, because the site must remain safe for thousands of years, and a political problem. Why don't we just dump the waste into a repository in your back yard, Mike?

Jeff

It is currently, I have two nuclear power plants 'in my back yard' that have been storing nuclear waste under six feet of water since day one. ;)

mike

Actually, neither Berwick nor TMI is in your back yard.

They were within 100 mi, however, of your back yard. As they were mine.

Perhaps you can talk to the officials at TMI or Berwick, and see if you can move there.

Jeff

You do not know as much as you think you do. My back yard most of the time is in Delaware, near different plants, but I spend a lot of my time in another of my homes, north of Allentown Pa. located between the TMI or Berwick plants. On a clear day, from the top of the mountain, I can see the vapor from their cooling towers. I've been in the PPL Berwick plant as well as the TVA breeder reactor plant at Oak Ridge Tennessee. ;)

mike

You've visited two nuclear power plants. Big deal.

You might want to consult a map. Allentown in not between Berwick and TMI. It is about 20 mi. East of the line between these plants. I trained for a couple of months in Allentown, at Lehigh Valley Hospital there, doing internal medicine and intensive care medicine there while in medical school.

Thanks for the laugh about telling someone he doesn't know as much as he thinks. I mean, you thought that the first digit of the VIN indicates US content of vehicles. ;-)

You crack me up.

Maybe you should visit the hospital more. Laughter is good medicine. B-)

Jeff

Duh, who said my home was in Allentown?

mike

I your intellectual dishonest rearing its usual ugly head. You, again, removed parts of my post without indicating that fact.

You said that you live north of Allentown. Berwick is approx. 35 mi WNW of Allentown. If you live north of Allentown, then you must be east of Berwick. Unless, of course, you do not know where you live in relation to Allentown, Berwick and TMI or you are unable to describe the position. ;-)

If you lived closer to Berwick, you would live nearer to Hazelton or WilkeBarre or another city closer to Berwick

If you are able to understand a map, you might have the ability to understand what I mean.

You also said that you live in the Poconos, which are to the East and North of Allentown.

I am quite familiar with the Pocono area. Not only did I do some of my medical training in Allentown at the Lehigh Valley Hospital and at the Easton Hospital, but I grew up in the area. In fact, the school district which I attended had the name Pocono in it.

Of course, if you didn't report your location accurately, I understand. ;-)

Jeff

'Curious, anyone died there as a direct result of that plant?

As opposed to the deaths from cars and oil/coal factories?

Not even a mouse, as far as I know ;)

mike

The nuke plant in my back yard, Palo Verde, is rated by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission as one of the two least safe plants in the US.

Sequoyah Nuclear Power Plant is less than 8 miles from this house and I couldn't give less of a damn. It's safe. I recall in school some of the engineers came to talk about the odds of a disaster. It was 1 in some many billions. They said we had a greater chance of being hit by

10-20 meteorites at the same time than an accident of any degree from the power plant.

It's in Chattanooga and run by TVA in case you wanted to know.

p.s. I used to live less than 2 miles from it, you could see the flashing lights from the cooling towers at night. I had relatives who lived across the street from the plant for decades, none died before they were 75 years old.

It's a bunch of hype about nuclear power plants being dangerous.

TNT plants are VERY dangerous.

Now I live near some of those very HUGE Gasoline storage tanks, about

10 all bunched together. My risk of death increased 10,000% compared to the nuke plant.