head gasket or timing belt

Unfortunately, it is very common with the 22re that when the Timing chain starts to begin slack it tends to eat a hole into the inside of the timing cover .... Check your oil pan for metallic chips and such which would indicate rubbing.. It certainly sounds to me like a head gasket.... I have a 94' with a 22re and it did the EXACT same thing... If your going to replace the head gasket anyway, I would suggest that while it's torn down you do a few preventative maintenance items which will unfortunately cost more, but will be worth it.. Planning on doing the work yourself???? If so, you'll be glad to replace it all at once since you HAVE to pull the head to get to the timing chain anyway. I would suggest a new Timing chain/Gears/Tensioner, Oil Pump, and Water Pump.. Replace the Timing cover also if it looks heavily worn. $50 for a head gasket?? That's pretty steep... you'd do just as well with a Fel-Pro Gasket from Napa.... and $25 for a thrermostat?? Outrageous... Get that from napa too and save yourself another 15 bucks.. as far as the head gasket kit... Well.. some you will need, while others you may not.. But almost always, the manifold gaskets (intake, and exhaust) will need to be replaced.. I think last time i bought a complete head gasket kit by Fel-Pro, I think I paid like 80 bucks from Acme Auto....

If you were buying a sensor, or some other electrical specific part, I would say buy factory, but gaskets are gaskets, and Fel-Pro makes a damn fine gasket.

Ian

Toyota-holic "gp" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...

To clarify: are you saying that there is no smoke from the tailpipe but there is antifreeze in the oil?

Bad sign :-(

You may hear the rattling noise from the front of the engine if the timing chain tensioner is not working properly.

Toyota dealers are probably more knowledgeable about your vehicle than most independent shops. Driving it 10 km should be OK as long as there is coolant and oil. BTW, the 22RE engine has a timing chain, not a timing belt. The only way to confirm whether the timing chain is a problem is for a knowledgeable person to listen and remove the timing cover and inspect the chain and tensioner.

So you think I should also change water and oil pump while I am there. I have never done this but planning to arm myself with a manual or 2, take my time and slowly get down to it. A little anxious about this, worried about stripping a bolt in there as I take them out. Plan to run the engine a bit to get warm/hot and use lots of loose nut spray. I have done some work over the years on my car --even rebuilt some small engines (lawnmower and stuff) so hoping this works out well. How long do you think this will take a shop/ a first time do-it-yourselfer?

Ebay has a gasket/bolt set for 80 or so and here is the description, not sure if better to stick with NAPA. I hear one should go OEM with the thermostat, but wondering thoughts on gaskets/water pump/oil pump? I tend to agree with you This fine head gasket set fits 1985 to 1995 TOYOTA 22R, 22RE, & 22REC,

2=2E4L inline OHC 4 cylinder engines. The bolts are Pro-Topline, brand NEW!These are the SAME FINE quality you have come to EXPECT from EPN=99, a Q9002 certified kit, your assurance of quality! This kit features not only the full NEW head bolt kit, but ALL the gaskets you will need to do a complete top end overhaul on your Toyota, intake, exhaust, head gasket, misc gaskets, and INCLUDING the premium VITON oil seals, even the half moon valve cover ends! As COMPLETE as you will find! A Special feature is the graphite impregnated core head gasket, your assurance of a perfect seal, and the premium Viton oil seals, the same as Toyota uses! S & H adds just $12.00, international is cost of shipping, Paypal, bank check, or MO is fine, Visa/MC via phone.

Yes, thanks for confirming that it is a chain. I have some auto club coverage to get it towed. It sounds like while I am there, I should change much including timing chain, etc.

Thing is, I have had it only 2 years, somewhat possible, it has been changed. Not sure if I should spend 100$ to get it pro-diagnosed, or open it up and see what I have got.

So far, my list includes, thermostat, chain, tensioner, many gaskets, bolts, it has been suggested water pump, oil pump --seems like a long list, wow!

Thanks, did you use dealer parts or some aftermarket. I am going with OEM thermostat, but gaskets, some ebay resources or thinking of NAPA, as for oil pump and chain, will decide later. I had heard that the chain lasts longer than that but guess if I am doing it myself, i can put the savings into some proactive measures.

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Obviously YOUR mileage has varied - with mine! Keep your expletives to yourself. Remember to be polite - otherwise folks will think badly of uncouth language. Got it?

Thanks, I may need some advice as I dig into it.

Any suggestions on Name brands for gasket sets or locations to buy from? There are a number on ebay, ex CNS Motors. EPN=99, there is mention of GRAPHITE HADE GASKET, VITON VALVE STEM SEALS so there are a few sets out there --any cautions? It was suggested I change the head bolts too.

Here is another ad This fine head gasket set fits 1985 to 1995 TOYOTA 22R, 22RE, & 22REC,

2=2E4L inline OHC 4 cylinder engines. The bolts are Pro-Topline, brand NEW!

Several of you asked for a combination like this so here it is!

These are the SAME FINE quality you have come to EXPECT from EPN=99, a Q9002 certified kit, your assurance of quality! This kit features not only the full NEW head bolt kit, but ALL the gaskets you will need to do a complete top end overhaul on your Toyota, intake, exhaust, head gasket, misc gaskets, and INCLUDING the premium VITON oil seals, even the half moon valve cover ends! As COMPLETE as you will find!

A Special feature is the graphite impregnated core head gasket, your assurance of a perfect seal, and the premium Viton oil seals, the same as Toyota uses!

One is to be sure to replace the timing belt and water pump while you're doing the head gasket. No sense going back in.