Actually an 'expert' on NPR reminded listeners that more hybrids won't do much to increase gas supplies because hybrid owners are likely to drive more because that is what people do when prices they pay for gas go down.
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May 17, 2005
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No, not necessarily, it's the fault of a "democratic" system that is too influenced by the "free market". The quotes around those phrases are on purpose, as neither are really representative of their true definitions.
Just to clarify it is a tax deduction, not a tax credit.
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if you are in 20% bracket you only save $400 on taxes if deduction is $2k
Sort o like they guy on TV that said higher fuel prices will lead to driver parking their big SUVs. He was way off, the people that can afford 40K to 70K vehicles can easily afford the fuel they need to operate them. In the real world the people most effected by high fuel prices where the folks that drive economy cars, they could not afford the fuel and curtailed their driving, as the price went up over $2. ;)
mike hunt
Art wrote:
That $2,000 is a part of the $5,000 the Toyota dealer adds to the MSRP. The really sad part is American taxpayers are subsidizing the purchase price of vehicle, made in Japan, so one American can pay 2,000 more profit that goes to Japan, tax free. ;)
mike hunt
Art wrote:
Lets say we for some reason, overnight, we would not need gasoline. The environuts actually think that would reduce our need to import crude oil.
mike hunt
Eric Dreher wrote:
Apples to oranges. The V6 Camry is a lot more vehicle. LOL
mike hunt
Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Bingo.
Some of the people, all of the time...
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The current Prius (2nd Gen.) is very nearly a Camry hatchback in size, etc. I don't think you'd have to worry about possible bugs so much in this case. They've been selling the "new" prius for 2 years now so many of those bugs would have been caught already.
And the extra torque the electric motor can supply would be very welcome in the 4 cyl Camry.
Just my 2 cents.
Jonathan
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Few environuts realize gasoline is a buy product of refining. Except as a fuel or a cleaner it has little value and would need to be burned off at the refinery, as most of it was before the Model 'T' Ford came along. ;)
mike hunt
Eric Dreher wrote:
Few realize anything at all.
How many realize how the electricity that charges their hybrids is produced? How many realize that each time you convert one form of energy to another there is loss of efficiency?
Plug it in. Don't think about what's being burned or heated to get the juice you need. It's hilarious.
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ANY torque would be welcomed in a 4cy Camry on a long grade, that's for sure. LOL
mike hunt
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the extra torque the electric motor can supply would be very
Here I am agreeing with Mike again. Maybe anyway. We don't know what would happen to hybrid sales if there was no deduction but likely they would go down slightly. On the other hand, Accord and Excape hybrids are not racing out the door according to a recent newspaper article here in Raleigh.
A lot of those big SUV's are bought on credit by people who cannot really afford them. Some will get parked if gas prices get high enuf.
I told you I'm right 99.9% of the time, get used to it.
The Accord is not as good as the Prius and the Escape in an SUV. Ford buyers are smarter than Toyota buyers. They know it doesn't make sense to spend $5,000 more just to gain a bit better fuel economy, when $5,000 will buy ALL of the fuel for a V6 Escape for four years. The average new car buyer in the US buys another new vehicle in three to four years. Smart buyers are one reasons the Escape is the best selling small SUV in the US ;)
mike hunt
Art wrote:
Ya right. Corolla and other econobox drivers pay cash I suppose LOL
mike hunt
Art wrote:
We'll see :)
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