OT:Superbowl commercials

Reasoned Insanity · 2007-02-05T04:04:52+00:00

They can all be found here have to say, I don't like the budlight immigration one at all. It looks at our illegal immgration problem way too lightly.

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DH 19 years ago

Hahahah. The owner who needs a truck for the semi-yearly trip to Lowe's should rent. You can rent a truck at HD for $20/hour or so. I'd bet a quarter Lowe's has the same deal and, if not, there's always Budget.

As for the Tundras going back and forth to work empty, you should stand along the expressway here and count the empty Silverados driving by (and the empty Silverados being dragged along by a tow truck). As you know, there's little relationship between the truck requirement in a prospective buyer's head and reality. The Tundra can work, whether or not the buyer chooses to work it is outside Toyota's control.

What part of "winner" do you find confusing and hard to understand? Which part of "better fuel economy" is difficult for you to get your head around? What part of "more torque" do you think is not English?

Yeah. We went over that, too. What part of "more power" fails to capture your attention? You can bet it will capture the attention of many people looking for a truck. Smaller engines are available.

So, don't buy a Toyota. But if you think Toyota doesn't know anything about building a truck, you're probably mistaken. GM and Ford had better get in tune with the idea that, yes, things are changing. And, if the current Tundra doesn't quite do it, either, Toyota will be back in a few years with something else.

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Ed White 19 years ago

The part of "winner" I don't underatand is the part where the Silverado out scored the Tundra in the subjective portion of the test and yet was not declared the winner. It is sort of like if sports writers declared the Bears the winner of the Superbowl becasue they thought they had more capabiilities - even though they lost. And since most trucks are purchased by caual users, don't you think the part about the Silverado being "the unanimous choice as the truck we'd most recommend to others for casual use" is improtant?

And as for fuel economy - the Silverado "won" the EPA fuel economy test. I wonder which one GM cares about more?

And if you really want truck for pulling power, GM offers a diesel in the Silverado HD. If you want to drag race, seems like a Corvette is the way to go.

Ed

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dh 19 years ago

If you had bothered to read the entire article, you would have found that "evaluation" and "recommend" portions only make up about 55% of the rankings. If the Chevy "squeaked by" in the high-weight category (as it did) and then got clobbered in another high-weight category (as it did), it would lose (as it did).

GM probably cares more about what the sticker says than what the truck will deliver in the real world. They just want the sale. What happens afterwards is your problem.

So, don't buy the Toyota. I'm sure they're crying all the way to the bank.

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C. E. White 19 years ago

I won't buy the Tundra, or the F150, or the Silverado, or the Titan, or the Ram. They are all poorly designed vehicles in my mind. Too big, too jacked up, too expensive, and too fuel inefficient for the most of the people who buy them and too weak for real work trucks (except maybe for the F150, but it is way too jacked up). If Toyota was going to cry, they would already be crying since I bought my new truck last year. I ended up with a Frontier. I actually wanted a Tacoma, but Toyota has those so overpriced I just couldn't bring myself to buy one. I will have a good comparison point though, my SO's father has one that is equipped about like my Frontier. It will be interesting to see which one lasts the longest. I am wagering neither one will last as long as my Father's last Ranger.

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Tomes 19 years ago

"Scott in Florida" wrote

Yep, I suppose that was the best one. It still does not rate with the earlier stuff tho.

My all time favorite was the Bud, Weis and Er frogs. Tomes

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Pete Moss 19 years ago

Uhh...you've never heard of the Tacoma or the Hilux? Best small trucks that have ever existed by almost any way you choose to measure.

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C. E. White 19 years ago

You'd have a hard time convincing me that the Hilux trucks are particularly good. One of my neighbors (at my farm) has owned two older Toyota pick-ups. One was a diesel He did drive it for 150,000 miles, but that required one engine rebuild and two transmission rebuilds. Not to mention the major rust holes in the rear fenders. It was a total POS in my mind. He currently owns one of the last small Toyota trucks they sold before changing the name to Tacoma. It has only had to have the engine replaced once so far (blown head gasket). It might make it to 100k miles if the rust doesn't finish it off. I have driven it a few times when I am helping him shuffle equipment around. You couldn't give than piece of junk to me. I do like the current Tacomas, but they are way over priced. I ended up with a Frontier. I probably should have saved even more money and bought a Ranger.

Ed

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dh 19 years ago

That's kind of surprising. Most of the gay guys I know find two straight guys accidentally getting too close to each other and then realizing it to be funny.

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