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> > The next time someone comes in here and asks a question that's clearly
> > and plainly answered in the owner's manual, I'm going to laugh my ass
> > off knowing they're getting the royal treatment when they take the car
> > in for service:
>
> What if they lost their owner's manual or never got it when they bought > a used car?
> Shit happens. Not everybody bothers to order a new one.
They should... I didn't get one with mine, and that was one of the first things I bought.. Got it off ebay.. And it's the real deal pair of manuals, not some copy. I'm the same way about working on any modern car. I refuse to touch one without a decent manual. Too many things that require exact specs to diagnose, maintain, etc.. So.. I also bought a service manual off ebay.. It's on a CD, and a copy I imagine, but it's a Toyota manual, and probably beats the heck out of the usual "Haynes" manual or whatever.