Re: Media Backlash against NBC

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NBC aired footage of the maniac from VA Tech. Now they are catching all > kinds of shit for it. > > I'm torn. > > The messages were intense, and they were alarming. But, they were also > news. I assume NBC had the blessing of law enforcement to air footage due > to the ongoing investigations. I don't see what was gained by airing the > footage, other than selling news, but I also do not see what the harm is > in airing the footage, other than making some of us uncomfortable. > > Cho was certainly a deranged individual, and he should have been committed > to a mental hospital for his own good, not to mention the safety of the > community. Having said that, how do we confine people like Cho and not > confine people that ought not be confined? If Cho needed to be in a > hospital despite his assertions to the contrary, how do we know when > somebody that resists confinement in a hospital really deserves to be set > free? It is a slippery slope, my friends. Either we lock up guys like Cho > and ensnare a few innocent people in the same process, or we endanger > society by not gathering up our sick and dangerous brethren. > > I am reminded of an old Jack Nicholson movie, One Flew Over the Coo Coo's > Nest. In the movie, Jack checked himself into the funny farm to hide from > life for a while. He found himself stuck in a black hole from which there > was no escape. There were mental patients there that were clearly better > off on the inside, and society would do those people a huge disservice had > they been turned loose -- we set about to turn them loose in the '70s > sometime, and we failed them as a result. Clearly, we need mental > hospitals for guys like Cho -- despite anything that Cho himself had to > say on the topic. Some mental patients -- most, I think -- need the > stability that a mental ward might provide, as opposed to the instability > they find on the streets. > > Cho was ordered to a mental hospital, and he sought and received > outpatient care when there is little doubt that he should have been > committed. > > After all of the dust settles, if we can't figure out whom should be in > mental hospitals and whom should be roaming the streets freely, we are > destined to repeat this horrible experience. I think it is worthwhile to > try and figure out how to fix the problem(s) associated with mental > hospitals and getting people into them against their will, but I do not > think it is worthwhile to point crooked fingers at the system in an > attempt to place blame. It happened. It was horrible. We can pray it never > happens again, but I think it will. > > NBC had hard choices to make. Had they elected to not air the footage, > they would be charged with becoming an arbiter that decides what we see. > Had they shelved the footage, then they would be facing censorship charges > today. They would still be on the losing end of bad press. Their job is to > bring us the news, and they brought it. It was news when they brought it, > but as an afterthought it was not a particularly good news story. But, NBC > isn't burdened by deciding what is good news and what is bad, they only > decide what is news and what isn't. Sometimes the decision is good and > remains so, sometimes the decision is good when made but turns bad, and > other times the decision is bad from the start. I think it was good and > turned bad. It was always uncomfortable, but news can be that way. > > > >
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Go Mavs
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I had to laugh. CNN announced there was tremendous outcry against showing the footage and then they showed it. I don't believe showing it did anyone any good.

Also, I get tired of hearing about how the university community will come together and heal. I am not worried about the university. I do feel sorry for the parents and relatives of the victims. They will never recover from the tragedy. Absolutely never.

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Art

I saw the whole thing.

You have to look at it this way:

  1. They are journalists. THe k00k sent THEM the materials. Why would any news producer in his or her right mind sit on this?! If it had been my decision, I would have done the same.
  2. It was sent to NBC. It was THIERS. It was up to the producers and the Wheels to decide whether or not to air it. They did.
  3. If it did anything, it was to put VATech on the spot. This guy was a known k00k! It brought to light the poor communications they had with students in an Emergency.

The good things to come out of this.

I guarantee VA, and a LOT of states are going to look at how the decision is made to sell anyone a gun. There will be a lot more intercommunication between departments, Doctors, Institutions, etc. Getting a gun is going to be a lot tougher (for those going through channels, anyway...)

Red Falgs will be heeded a LOT more! K00ks like this will be finding it harder to slip between the cracks. And judges and Doctors will pay a LOT nore attention to a person's Mental Health. It took a Court Order to hold him longer than he was. This will inconvenience some. Too bad.

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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

On a rare instance I have to agree with Art on this 100 percent.

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dbu.,

I can't. By "the university community" I'm assuming they mean the students who lost friends, the teachers who lost colleagues &/or friends, & also students. And the students who though they may not've personally known the dead students &/or professors, must feel more than a little shaken. Not to mention the students who made it out alive - or even unscathed, but were in the classrooms or halls & saw the shootings up close & a little too personally. I feel sorry for all of them, too. They will also need time to heal - & likely some help doing it.

Cathy

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Cathy F.

And I'm sick of this. They need to STOP broadcasting these sickos, because all that does is encourage the next shooter to go out in a "blaze of glory"

ENOUGH

Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

I totally refuse to watch any footage of the sicko. Period. I change the channel or turn down the sound.

Charles of Schaumburg

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n5hsr

Me too. I've had quite enough of it.

They should have turned it over and waited, at least for a period of time, or maybe never. Have some respect for his mom and dad also. They are hurting too.

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dbu.,

"dbu.," ,

Excellent point! That reminds me of when the Shuttle (Challenger) exploded. They kept showing close-up shots of McAuliffe's parent's faces. How awful it must have been for other family members to see that over and over.

Very disrespectful, IMO.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

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Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

In this last, I agree.

Cathy

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Cathy F.

"Cathy F."...

So you think the media feeding frenzy is okay?

Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

I don't think I have indicated that. IMO, repeating it over & over & over for hours on end is absurd & unnecessary. This happens, no matter the current large news story - it dominates the news to the point that other news (Iraq, anyone? - R. Gates' trip, Baghdad's latest deaths...) becomes eclipsed.

OTOH, I also feel that all pertinent information that becomes known about this guy's personality traits & actions should be broadcast (and printed), in order for the public to become better educated (via the news, in this case) about the red flags that can be displayed by such mentally ill individuals.

Ex: A few years ago there was a gunman in the Capitol building. It transpired that he'd killed animals (kittens, IIRC), shortly before his Capitol Bldg. shooting spree. I think the fact that this was reported in the news served to alert anyone (who hadn't known about this aspect of mental illness) to the fact that people who kill animals - which is bad enough! - often go on to murder humans, too. IOW, that behavior is a huge red flag which should not be ignored.

Cathy

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Cathy F.

"Cathy F." ...

Well you said you agreed "with the last" - which I thought might mean you think the rest of this stuff is okay.

I have no problem with that, but they should just say "the gunman" not his name. That's the problem I have with it. Australia doesn't allow the killer's name/pic to be broadcast. We need a similar guideline. It just feeds their need for attention.

See my comment above.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

"Jeff Strickland" .

If they just say, "gunman" I wouldn't have a problem with it - well, at least not as much of a problem.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

And the Columbia disaster where they played the video of the craft breaking up OVER and OVER and OVER, ad nauseum ad infinitum. The men who did that deserve all the women in their life to tie them down to a chair and wax them until there is not one hair left on their body.

Or maybe borrowing from the Princess Bride, to the pain. . . . As you wish.

Charles of Schaumburg

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n5hsr

"n5hsr" ...

LOL - dayum.

Natalie

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Wickeddoll®

Right, Natalie! Let the guy have the anonymity he deserves, not the fame he craved for his brutality. But NBC and the other networks played right into the bastard's hands, and they did exactly what he expected them to do, insuring his fame. Sometimes (often) I think the suits at the networks don't have the brains God gave geese. But, jeez, they DID get the scoop, and the audience, which is what they aim for ...at the cost of decency and taste.

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mack

Okay, this I can easily agree with. I didn't realize that anonymity - vs. info - was the gist of your POV.

Cathy

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Cathy F.

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