Toyota Tabloata

Try to simply GET a Prius in New England, at any price.

Barry

...and then in the 70's imports started taking off - I don't know if they (the big 3) can (even today) build a real match for the Honda Civic. I had both a small car (Saturn) and a small pickup (Isuzu-gas) prior to buying the Tundra. I'm hoping that this one larger vehicle will offset its size by not maintaining oil, gas, tires, etc for 2 vehicles. I was waiting for the new Honda truck, however the production unit isn't as slick as the concept truck, and mileage is advertised as 16/21 so now my Tundra looks like an even better purchase (and a lot less expensive and a heck of lot more truck IMO).

I heard there's a 6 month wait here in San Diego for the Prius.

An open mind to waste & greed propaganda, you mean? Those are well known diversionary sites put out by the oil lobby and other fogies who can't deal with change. Read their credentials - they aren't climatologists. Have you not heard about what's going on with Alaskan permafrost and glaciers around the world? I doubt you read much science news but you ought to.

The climate has no concern for give-me-my-gas politics. It just reacts without conscience to atmospheric chemistry, which Man is definitely changing. To declare global warming a hoax requires the claimant to disprove CO2's efficacy as a heat trapping gas. Where's your science on that? You and the people who run those sites have spent no time taking field samples or working in labs. It's mostly conspiracy theories and rewriting the works of others with cherry-picked examples.

Here's the official EPA position on the issue, and even Bush admits it's a problem. Whether or not he cares is another matter.

It's well accepted by scientists that greenhouse gases trap heat in the Earth's atmosphere and tend to warm the planet. By increasing the levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, human activities are strengthening Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The key greenhouse gases emitted by human activities remain in the atmosphere for periods ranging from decades to centuries.

A warming trend of about 1°F has been recorded since the late 19th century. Warming has occurred in both the northern and southern hemispheres, and over the oceans. Confirmation of 20th-century global warming is further substantiated by melting glaciers, decreased snow cover in the northern hemisphere and even warming below ground."

Ron

You seem to have no respect for the Commons (public resources) and you show in other posts that you think global warming isn't happening, despite the (non Republican filtered) scientific consensus that it is.

It's about far more than money when we're altering atmospheric chemistry on this scale. Oil propagandists and right-wing talking heads are not telling you the truth. Here is an article about Alaska from "way back" in 2001, and things keep getting worse up there:

Ron

Forget about it's size and whatever else you dislike about it, just being in the same city as one is quite a feat!

Toyota is marketing them in magazines, television, the web, but in reality very few dealers have any at all and I've only ever caught glimpses of two since they came out.

They should have called it the Toyota Jimmy Hoffa, of perhaps the Toyota Elvis?

IC

Ps. Toyota Sasquach? Nessie?

I saw one before the ad blitz started here in the mid-South.

The truck was in the mid turn lane, and I initially thought (due to seeing it from the front, with the nose and size) it to be a new Dodge Dakota.

Stew

I'm glad I got my 03 4cyl 4x4 when I did. Compact fot 4x4ing, no problem carrying my snowmobile, good on gas. Looks good too. I won't be getting a newer Tacoma unless they make some serious changes back to a compact model.

Though I generally agree that the trend towards larger and larger is unsustainable and of questionable wisdom, I have to say I have always thought the compact truck to be too small. The Tacoma for me was way too small (I am 6'4") and use my truck for work. I could never figure out why Toyota charged similar money for the Taco and the Tundra. There is only 5 or 6 grand difference in price. And the Tundra is a much more appropriate size (for me). In my opinion the new Tacoma / current Tundra is the correct size for a truck. Now rumour has it that Toyota will be super sizing the Tundra shortly which effectively takes the Tundra out of contention for me (I'll stick with my 04 Tundra DC or grab a new Taco in 4 or 5 years).