On 11 Oct 2004 14:23:15 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comcrap (RSMEINER) scribbled this interesting note:
Not really, I just decided to cut the list short for brevity. There are more examples of unsafe cars out there than you or I could possibly count...
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Peter
You make a good point, especially regarding how difficult a police officers job can be, in ways many of us would not appreciate.
The safety features on any car do not imply absolute security. We would hope that such features mean an improvement over the previous model. The safest cars in the world do not prevent people from getting killed. The danger may be, in part, in the perception of safety. I remember reading an insurance article, many years ago, which claimed that VW drivers were less likely to be in accidents than others. If this was true, then it would represent the true safety of these vehicles, at least at that time.
Peter
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P.J.Berg
Been there, done that, got a scar to prove it too
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John Willis
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:43:39 -0400, "Peter" scribbled this interesting note:
For the surviving, older ACVW drivers out there it must still be true. Call it "Evolution in Action."
-- John Willis (Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)
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Kurt Kesler
Stunting on a bike without wearing safety gear is Darwin collecting his due, not stuff.
But they do have steel. In my '71 Olds, the Toyota that pulls out in front of me is my crumple zone.
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Dennis Wik
As Bob said, "Troll". We used to have them with the same questions. Let's see, oh ya, one of them was Matt. Is that you Matt?
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RSMEINER
Good point. I only have 8 fingers.
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Alan Nelson
This is history in the making.
Bob Hoover's shortest sermon, ever.
This proves that you can answer a question and speak volumes with only one word.
Thanks again Bob, for your insightful and valuable information!
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Chris Perdue
73-88 models.....i have an 83...doesnt scare me anymore than driving my aerostar(workvan) with the ABS(plastic) fuel tank monted just inboard, but below the frame...
------------------- Chris Perdue "I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the air-cooled legend forward" Jim Mais Feb. 2004
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jjs
An impoverished, unqualified statement such as yours is impossible to answer, but if you are deeply concerned about being safe in an accident, I offer two remedies: 1) DON'T DRIVE or 2) Get a friggin SUV. If neither of these appeal to you, then please contact us again after you have undergone an infusion of responsibility and guts. If you choose option #2, then just f*ck you.
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Chris Perdue
good to see ya John...was worried about you....everything okay?
------------------- Chris Perdue "I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the air-cooled legend forward" Jim Mais Feb. 2004
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Dennis Wik
John, glad to hear your advice on #2. Very today, using Chaney's reply and all. Hope things are going well for you.
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Ben Boyle
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Ben Boyle
Yep, check out the crash test of the French Citroen 2CV! This site also has a Beetle.
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Kafertoys
Alot of us have been driving aircooled VW's along time, Whos been in an accident and was there others with you,and how bad was anybody hurt. I had pics of Gary's 66 when he was T-boned but there tapped on a dead hard drive. I have been in 2, one the brand new chevy Z24 was totaled ,I drove was able to drive away. the 2nd my 73 super was hit real hard in the rear it broke the engine out. the VW jetta that hit me was totaled also. My son 9 months at the time and a friend in the passanger seat . we got a little dizzy from doing a few
360's nut again no injurys.
Mario
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jjs
Hey, I had a Pinto! I'll be I'm the only one who had the temerity to have a flame paint job - on the rear - with the flames going UP!
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jjs
I still enjoy what the late John Muir said (paraphrasing) that all would-be drivers should be lashed to the front of a VW bus to be sensitized to the realities of driving.
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jjs
Nothing a good night's sleep wouldn't help. :)
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jjs
Was having some medical issues but much better now. Thanks.
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Kafertoys
I had three close friends die in a pinto, I would rather walk then ever ride in one. being in the auto body business as long as I have I can tell you there are very few cars out there thats safe when being hit by another car, truck or wall . Best I can say is learn to drive or stay off the roads.
Mario
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