89 740 GL: Is the leak from the rear seal?

It is using oil like crazy, but not burned. I watched underneath the car with it running, and there is a drip, about one a minute, coming off of the RH lower bell housing bolt. Definitely oil, not trans fluid! I would think then that the oil is coming out the rear seal, and down the inside of the bell housing. But before I tell the mechanic I need a quote on replacing the real main seal, is there any way for the oil leak to be somewhere else? An oil leak was previously found and repaired at the distributor (bad shaft seal, they said). How much does the tranny need to be disassembled or moved in order to change the rear main seal? If it wasn't for the tranny being in the way, I would do it myself.

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Geronimo
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Geronimo; I don't know if it's the same thing but I did experience something last December. I had been seeing some oil beneath where my vehicle was parked but didn't do anything about it for quite a while.

Then one day while stopped at the mailbox with the engine idling, I think something like the temperature or oil gauge alerted me to the fact that something was amiss (the only time I check fluid levels is, well, never) .

In any case, the oil level was *really* down so instead of going to town I went home to pour some oil in. Much to my surprise it was running out the bottom at the rear of the engine almost as fast as I was pouring it in.

"Oh oh" I thought to myself. "I've finally killed old Olaf". (a 1985

245 GL)

I had it towed to my neighbourhood garage thinking that it was the last time I'd be seeing Olaf before sending him to Valhalla.

It turned out to be the rear cam seal. $5.71 for the part.

The mechanic fabricated a bracket to hold the seal in. He said that with older vehicles, there is often sufficient blow-by to blow a seal out and the bracket was a preventative measure to avoid my having to return the vehicle to him to replace the seal again. Sounded reasonable to me so I told him to go ahead.

2 hours labour in total for diagnosis, R&R of the seal and bracket fabrication/installation. Less than $200 for the whole episode. Relatively painless and a massive relief to learn that Olaf survived yet another of my slothful vehicle non-maintenance habits.

Ger> It is using oil like crazy, but not burned. I watched underneath the

Reply to
Eunoia Eigensinn

Gotta take the transmission and the clutch and the flywheel out. Or the equivalent in an automatic. Major pain in the a for what is finally a trivial bit of work. Might try some of the "seal swellers" they sell, or a switch to some of those oil for old engines they sell with seal swellers in them, although yours sounds like a fairly serious leak. I did the same for a much slower leak on a 240, with pretty good results. The parts guy actually had a book to look up which seals on which cars are rubber and will respond to the treatment, and which are rope type seals and won't.

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z

Tell the mechanic it's dripping oil and let him track it down, or get it up on ramps and crawl under there to see.

Reply to
James Sweet

It's not *that* hard to replace the rear main, last time I did it it took most of a day, it's easier with a manual transmission, auto tranny is much heavier.

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James Sweet

Start with the crankcase ventilation system. If the ventilation isn't good, it will force the oil out everywhere possible. In extreme cases it has been known to pop the rear seal out entirely. An interesting point: the oil level is below the bottom of the rear seal.

Clean and check all the parts of the ventilation system - the oil-air separator, the flame trap (if present), even the hoses. I had a hose that was plugged with deposits... and those are big hoses! I just never thought to check them. I lost 3 quarts of oil before I got to the next freeway exit. Anyway... when you are done, you should be able to remove the oil filler cap and blow through the hose into and through the engine with about the resistance of your lips when blowing a candle out.

When the ventilation is drawing a slight vacuum in the crankcase as it should, oil won't leak out of even a bad seal.

Mike

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Michael Pardee

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