Yes, if MPG is a big concern for you, you can not put a small engine
is a big heavy CC and expect miracles in MPG area. I doubt it would do
much better (if at all) than a like truck that was Hemi powered. You
need a smaller truck like a dakota if you want good performance and
MPG from a 4.7.
I like the Dakotas but those Rams are the best looking trucks in my opinion.
I hear a lot of people saying different numbers when it comes to MPG on
different message boards, any where from 19-10. You dont know who to beleive
but if it is possible to get 15 I would be happy with that.
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I would be skeptical of anything over 13, my personal experience with dodge
trucks (gas burners anyways) is fairly low MPG. if you want my honest
opinion on the fuel mileage matter, buy a Cummins powered ram in the year
models your looking at. you wont be sorry. I'm personally seeing 19 mpg on
average around town. 18 if I run her hard. and have seen 21 on a trip where
I kept it round 65 or less.
my current truck is a 05 2500 6 speed.
my wife had a Durango with the 360 and only got 12, witch she was really
disappointed with because the truck I had at the time was a 99 8.0 liter v10
and was getting 10 - 11 with my lead foot.
I normally got 13-15 in the city and 16-18 on the highway. I had a 2003
quad-cab 1500 with the 4.7L. If you want a pickup with better gas mileage,
get a Ford Ranger or similar. If you want to tow, then you ain't goin' get
great mileage. I purchased the 1500 over a Dakota because it had a "full"
6-foot bed without a bed-extender and it had more room. Yeah, the Dakota has
similar tow ratings, but it's definitely not as roomy as the 1500.
Beleive it or not these mods, especaily the exhaust mod hurt your MPG
in town. There is a lot of misconceptions out there on what duals or
custom exhaust do to engine efficency and MPG. If it was that easy to
gain HP and MPG they would come that way from factory given the
pressure they are under for fleet MPG averages but there are those
that think detriot is stupid about this. Modern engine are well tuned
from intake to exhaust tip and when you start "improving" it, you
usually make it your MPG worse especailly in town. I could explain why
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "realmccoykennels via CarKB.com"
Me, I am done buying new big iron. O have a few older ones long paided
for and in excellant shape that I use when I need them otherwise it is
4 bangers for daily chores which saves money and makes the big iron
last a lot longer too. Anything I buy new is going to be cheap to run
because gas is only going to cost more as time goes on.
You can grow you own fuel for a gas engine too and when the
cellulous/ethanol process gets on line you can make it about 5 times
cheaper than with current distillation processes for ethanol and not
use food source for fuel like you have to with Bio and current
Ethanol. Honestly I think the future for a light diesel is bleak in
coming years because it cannot adapt to different fuels like a "gas"
motor can. A gas motor design can be run on Gas, Alchol, P-series
fuels, Hydrogen, Methane (Natural gas) and Propane just to name a few.
Bio Diesel fuel has problems of its own and it will never been a
viable long term solution, just a "curiousity" for a while.
Bio is more than just a curiosity, and it does not have to use "food
sources" to make it. there is a company making bio not far from me that
claim to use the trimmed chicken fat from a chicken plant near here, for one
example. now tell me is that a food stock you would want to use?
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:44:08 -0400, "Chris Thompson"
THey are using food products that would otherwise wind up in animal
feed. Nothing is wasted from animal processing plants and was not
before it was being used for BIO. BIO will never be a long term
solution and like I said it is just a side track right now and little
more. Sure somebody may make some money on it now but it will not be
viable long term. You can take that to the bank.It is easy to make
methanol from coal with distructive distilaltion but it is harder to
make a diesel type fuel from it as it really needs to be made for a
oil base stock. Diesel fuel supplies are being pinched more daily as
it is also heat oil and current Admin pushed unwisely to have hundreds
of new power plants built fueled by oil to support big oil lobbies
(which further taxes supply) other than coal which we have the largest
reserves of in the world. (a 300 to 500 year known supply) To give you
even more insight on the problem here and Big Oils grip on government
today, one ton of coal trades at about $50 a ton now and when you
measure the BTU energy content of this (like for powering power
plants) it costs about $350 for the same amount of energy in crude oil
or about $450 for the refined heating oil/diesel fuel products at
current trade prices.
Biodiesel may not be the only answer but it's a start. As long as it
can be produced by the home-brewer cheaper than buying diesel fuel at
pump prices, it won't go away. Commercially produced biodiesel is being
sold at the pumps at an increasing rate. The ideal situation for the
longevity of biodiesel would be to sell the commerically produced
product at the pump for less than what home-brewers can make it for.
I'm not the type of person you would call an enviornmentalist. I do
care about pollution and I don't go out of my way to intentionally harm
the planet, but a tree-hugger I am not. If diesel fuel prices at the
pump didn't go over $2.00 a gallon I probably would have never looked
into biodiesel. Well, it did and now I'm making my own fuel for much
less than that. Doing so raised my awareness of other energy
alternatives too. I wouldn't say it changed my life, but it did change
my way of thinking somewhat. Even if biodiesel is only a short term
"side track" it sure helps /my/ fuel bill and it puts alternative
energy a bit closer to the spotlight.
The linked article below is long, but worth reading. It details some of
the problems and some possible solutions of replacing all of the
petroleum oil burned in the US for transportation with biodiesel
(gasoline included). It's probably not going to happen but it addresses
some of the issues you mentioned.
Also, biodiesel burns very well in home oil furnaces. If I had an oil
furnace it would be burning biodiesel this winter.
Coal? How much cleaner does coal burn than oil? I'd be curious to see
an emissions comparison as used to fuel power generation facilities.
Widescale biodiesel production article from University of New
Hampshire, Physics Department:
Coal require more scrubbers to be clean but they both give off the
same amount of CO2 and maybe when oil was 20/barrel it was cheaper to
use oil but given oils volitilty and limited supply and price
differentail it would still be cheaper than oil even if you spent a
lot on scrubbers. The problem is the fer powerfull oil lobby that
controls DC more than you know and they do not want to loose that
control and let coal step in and current admin is not going to let it
happen either b3ecause big oil is a big financer of current
controlling party and they do not want to loose their backing.
Where are you at Mars??? It is very limited and world demand will
exceed world production in the next year or so and then prices will
really climb.(it is predicted by some very smart people that we will
see $100/barrel or more by end of 2007) It is a real pipe dream to
think otherwise. In the US alone we use the equivlent of 125,000 semi
tanker truck loads a day and growing and on the global level it is
about 500,000 truck loads a day. You honestly beleive this is
limitless? Bizzare. BTW we consume little over 25% of the worlds oil
and have only 5% of population and our thristy is going to choke use
one day because they only way the public will consever is when it gets
to costly to buy it. Just since 2001 or lust for big iron and other
energy needs has increase our oil consumption from about 20 million
barrels a day to almost 25 million and growing and we not make less
that 40% of what we use and it is driopping too. By 2020 the Dept of
energy predict that we will produce only about 20% of the oil we need.
The writing is on the wall but many choose to ignore it. When gas hits
4 to 5 bucks a gallon those 40K SUV's will not be worth squat. Choose
wisely because you might get stuck with it in a few years.
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