i dont know about that.
my 78 F250 2 wheel drive, 79 F350 4 wheel drive, and 88 super duty trucks
are still looking very good, with just minor dulling of the paint. but then
again, i take care of them.
I am sad to tell you that our 03 Focus has had a couple of fairly
AC problem at 70,000 cost $700, friggin flex plate at 100,000 and cost
$1200 or so.
I sure as hell never expected to replace a FLEX PLATE.
2000-2003 Focuses are problematic. The 2004 was the first one that was
fairly reliable, after Ford assigned a team of 50 engineers to exterminate
all the bugs. The Focus was given a Consumer Report recommendation that
year. The newer the Focus you buy, the better the reliability.
If you're open-minded, why do want to compare something in recent history
with a decade old foreign made car? I make that assessment as your monies
could obviously not buy a recent vehicle of any make based on your intended
I can provide history of my 08 Focus. Purchased with 925 miles on it on
August 1st, 2008 from exclusively Ford dealer. Now has 4500 miles, February
23, 2009. No failures or repairs to date. One oil/filter change. Gas
mileage to date, based on gas fills by gallons and trip odometer at that
time, 33 mpg worst/39 mpg best. 5 speed manual. Driver/passenger and side
air bags standard. No optional equipment or gimmicks. Primary complaint:
road noise, don't know the source of that noise (tires, suspension, lack of
sound insulation). Another complaint is the nagging tire pressure light
when the weather gets colder (tire pressure drops when colder, normal). Now
that the weather is improving, I don't have to bother with this anymore for
another season. I'm sure its saving me some gas keeping the tire pressure
at spec though. Complaint number 3 is lack of spare tire or even a donut
type spare. They give you an air compressor with an alternate side that has
that goop for sealing tires, one unit that fits in the trunk area designated
for it.. This is good for all but an all out blowout. Complaint number 4
is the relatively high trunk area. While backing the car, can't see what's
behind me at close distance, like children. Difficult to gauge distance
while backing in a parking spot is another example. Otherwise, I'm very
pleased with my bang for buck.
Just a caution on well used vehicles. Many Japanese, and German vehicles
were noted for their reliability as well. However, their replacement parts
are extremely expensive relatively speaking.. Along with the additional
expense, there's also time inconvenience when your car is in the shop.
That is old time thinking. Repair costs on hondas and fords are right
in the same ballpark as fords and cheaper than some of the stuff GM is
turning out... look at the G6's, Grand Prix ... .etc...
Nissan for one is higher than any honda or toyota... but for you to
throw out the blanket on high repair costs for jap vehicles is rediculous.
The german stuff I can agree with for sure... it is way out in left
field, more than any Nissan would even be worth... but the honda and
toyota stuff is as popular, or more popular and costs are very much in
line with domestic.
I think Sarah was just trying to start a Calvin Piss On <Insert name
here> thread ;)
My personal cost observations were based on a 1988 VW Fox that I owned for
20 years and a similar year Toyota my son owned. Fuel pumps for either
vehicles are in the stratosphere compared to their worth. I'm not sure
about subsequent year Toyotas. VWs continue to take the bank based on input
from others for replacement parts. I would be interested in approximately
what year Toyota replacement parts started to substantially decrease in
So my buddy brings over his 07 tundra for me to scan, and it needs a O2
sensor. Phone for part where I used to work, and Wham. $273 for a sensor,
wtf? My O2's on my car are 65 at the highest.
"Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
Welcome to the real world of Toyota parts pricing!
Before I would change any O2 sensor, I would try to find the FAULT, in the
process controller loop, that is actually causing it to be fouled. The O2
sensor, is the most commonly replaced GOOD part today ;)
Very true, and I just checked - a 2007 Tundra uses a standard 3 wire
O2 sensor - your $68 part will work. Actually the OEM manufacturer
being DENSO, you can buy them for about half that (universal fit).
Better check again.
MOD and NAPA both show it as a wide band air fuel ratio sensor.
(list price; $281)
The wiring diagrams on Mitchell show -all- A-F/O2 sensors in all 3
Tundra engine options to be 4 wire sensors.
Says standard 4 wire (sorry, my mistake) O2 sensor.
Part Number: USOS-4000UNIVERSAL OXYGEN SENSOR, 4-WIRE -- 20 cm long
wiring; Without connectors; A high quality, direct fit OE replacement
oxygen sensor; With limited lifetime warranty.
Fit Note: Before Catalytic Converter.
It is not a LAF, which is a 5 wire.
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