30K service on a 2004 Element

I just made a service appointment with my dealer in Massass, VA.

The guy read a long list of stuff that he said was needed at 30K miles.

Total cost would be: $480.00

Seems a mite high.

The car is just 2 years old, and has been driven mostly on well-paved local roads at about 60 mph.

------- I just got off the phone with Honda of America. This is the service that the manual calls for at 30K:

Oil change Rotate and balance tires Inspect and adjust drive belts Replace dust and pollen filter Replace engine air filter

-------------- Question: What's involved in changing the dust and pollen filter and what should it cost?

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Take a look at this link to hondasuv.com. . . same basic discussion.

'Curly'

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The following is Honda's normal maintenance schedule for a 2004 CRV at

30,000 miles. The severe service schedule is after this one. I hope this helps! Howard 30,000 miles/ 48,000 km/ --- This two-page Maintenance Schedule outlines the minimum required maintenance. Service at the indicated distance or time, whichever comes first. Use the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions if the vehicle meets any of the qualifiers in the Severe Conditions schedule or if the vehicle is normally driven in Canada.

NOTE: According state and federal regulations, failure to do the maintenance items marked with an asterisk (*) will not void the customer's emissions warranties. However, Honda recommends that all maintenance service be done at the recommended intervals to ensure long-term reliability.

o Replace engine oil, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

o Capacity: without oil filter 4.0 l (4.2 US qt).

o Rotate tires, and check tire inflation and condition, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km).

o Follow the pattern shown in the Owner's Manual.

o Inspect drive belts, every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 2 years.

o Look for cracks and damage, and inspect the auto tensioner indicator; no adjustment needed.

o Replace dust and pollen filter, every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 2 years.

o Replace the filter whenever airflow from the heating and cooling/climate control system is less than normal.

o Replace air cleaner element, every 30,000 miles (48,000 km).

Severe maintenance schedule

30,000 miles/ 48,000 km/ --- Service at the indicated distance or time, whichever comes first. Use this schedule if the vehicle is driven MAINLY in Canada or in any of the following conditions; if only OCCASIONALLY driven in these conditions, use the Normal Conditions schedule.

Severe Driving Conditions

a.. Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip.

b.. Driving in extremely hot (over 90ºF/32ºC) conditions.

c.. Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving, such as a taxi or a commercial delivery vehicle.

d.. Trailer towing, driving with a car-top carrier, or driving in mountainous conditions.

e.. Driving on muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads.

Do the items in parts A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K as required for the mileage/time interval listed.

NOTE: According state and federal regulations, failure to do the maintenance items marked with an asterisk (*) will not void the customer's emissions warranties. However, Honda recommends that all maintenance services be done at the recommended intervals to ensure long-term reliability.

o Replace engine oil, every 5,000 miles (8,000 km) or 6 months.

o Capacity: without oil filter 4.0 l (4.2 US qt).

o Replace engine oil filter, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

o Capacity: with oil filter 4.2 l (4.4 US qt).

o Check front and rear brakes, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

a.. Check pads and discs for wear (thickness), damage, and cracks.

b.. Check calipers for damage, leaks, and tightness of mount bolts.

o Lubricate all hinges, locks, and latches, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

o Rotate tires, and check tire inflation and condition, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km).

o Follow the pattern shown in the Owner's Manual.

o Inspect tie rod ends, steering gearbox, and gearbox boots, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

a.. Check rack grease and steering linkage.

b.. Check boots for damage and leaking grease.

c.. Check fluid lines for damage and leaks.

o Inspect suspension components, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

a.. Check bolts for tightness.

b.. Check condition of ball joint boots for deterioration and damage.

o Inspect driveshaft boots, every 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or 1 year.

o Check boots for cracks and boot bands for tightness.

o Replace air cleaner element, every 30,000 miles (48,000 km).

o Under dusty conditions, otherwise use the Normal Conditions schedule.

o Inspect drive belts, every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 2 years.

o Look for cracks and damage, and inspect the auto tensioner indicator; no adjustment needed.

o Replace dust and pollen filter, every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 2 years.

o Replace the filter as often (at 15,000 miles/24,000 km intervals) if the vehicle is driven mostly in urban areas that have high concentrations of soot in the air from industry and diesel-powered vehicles; also replace the dust and pollen filter anytime airflow is less than usual.

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Howard H

Market price is $30

Runs $10-$20 per tire at most tire shops.

Hah, nothing to adjust. Inspection takes 1-2 minutes

10 minute job. $30 part.

5 minute job, $20 part.

$100-$200 should easily cover the cost of all these items.

The dealer is probably adding on a bunch of extra services.

John

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