Took the key to my '80 300SD to the dealership today and they told me
it would be $50 to make one copy. WTF, over? Is there an alternative to
dealing with the interesrting pricing and distain for anything older
At present I've been unable to find an alternative since the MB keys are
steel and not brass. Even if you had a new blank you wouldn't be able to get
your local locksmith to make you a new key because their equipment is not
made to cut steel.
However, it would seem your local dealer is gouging you a bit since I've
only paid $35 per key for replacements at my local MB dealer. They do
require I bring in the registration before they'll take my money and order
the key using the VIN number.
Check with a local locksmith...I had some extra keys made for my 92
190E.with no problem in the San Diego area.
Not all locksmiths carry the blanks and the cutting equipment so you will
have to ask or look around a bit.
If YOU are in business and someone knocks on your door for something
rare that YOU have and THEY want, what would you charge?
Remember, it's a Mercedes, not a Dodge or a Ford; so THAT raises the
They told me it had to be cut in some secret underground key cutting
bunker on a remote island in a land far away with a glod plated laser
cutting tool. Then the new key is kissed by a dozen local virgins and
delivered to my door by the President of MB himself.
It costs $2.49 for the local locksmith to cut copies for my Ford and
Dodge. $50 by the MB dealer seems, well, pardon the inability to look
at this more positively, but a damn good reason to never go back to
that dealer again. I've been in business my whole life and if I ever
displayed that degree of greed to my customers, even if I am the only
one who has what they want, they'd come back one last time, with axe
handles and a rope. The person who waited on me, with a great deal of
displeasure, would be fired on the spot if he worked for me and did
that to one of my customers.
I thanked them by not preglowing my car and driving a couple times
around the lot, blowing smoke and sharing the splendor of my
multicoloured body panels and awesom seven-watt stereo blasting bad
Thanks for your comments. I will try a dealer in a bigger city.
Slow down a moment. If you will look at your key you will see that it is
very different than the key for your Ford or your house key. It does
require a special machine to cut one and the blanks are very pricy also.
You can get these cut at your local locksmith, if they have the machine.
Not all locksmiths have them however. You will probably get them cheaper
than at the dealer but they still are going to be pricy.
If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Probably less than $50, if what they wanted was a key.
Why should that raise the price of something as simple as a key? At
least, why should it raise it by that much?
I don't mind paying a premium for certain parts for my cars; I think
of it as a "quality surcharge." But for a friggin' *key?* C'mon!
"Your postings prove the Fourth Stooge Theory" -- Danny Clark
I paid them about $8.00 for a standard 'master' key, rather than the
$45.00 quoted for a remote control key. Had to do the present
registration bit and wait for it to come back from the land of
Look for a "High Security Locksmith" in your area (who is probably used by
your MB dealership).
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Buy your MB key blank on eBay http://tinyurl.com/npfc7 ,
take it to a high security locksmith that has the proper equipment like the
Quattrocode Computerized Key Machine Dealer Cost US$23,000.00, or purchase
your own equipment and do it yourself.
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The key for my 1984 500 SEL cost $19.00 + tax. I got the key from the local
MB dealer. I gave them the VIN of the car, 2 or 3 days later I was called
by the dealer to say the key was in. Picked up the key showing them proof
When I got a key for my 1991 300D, I know the lock cylinder had been changed
as the Ign and door locks used a different key. I ordered the lock cylinder
with 1 extra key (one comes with the lock cylinder) using the same
proceedure. Total cost $68.00 + tax. Now both cars have new keys and the
locks all match for the 300D for $87 + tax. What more can you ask for?
PS this was at Beck Imports in Charlotte, NC.
Again, thanks for all the comments.
The ignition and door/trunk are keyed the same. The dealer told me the
key was a "special security key" that had to be laser cut. I'll try the
dealer in Portland (Wilsonville), Oregon and see how they are.
I recently had a key made for my '91 300D. I only went to
the dealership at all because the guy down at the hardware
store said he couldn't duplicate the one on my keychain due
to its design. When I stated my needs to the girl at the
dealership's parts counter, her immediate response was,
"License and registration, please!" "Excuse me?" I said.
"What's _this_ about? Are you going to give me a ticket?"
I'm getting really tired of being asked for my ID so much these
days in the course of my day-to-day life (such as, more and more
often when I pay with a credit card), and I confess that that
impatience is becoming increasingly evident.
Another employee standing nearby overheard our exchange (and no
doubt, the note of irritation in my voice) and allowed as how this
rule has to do with these newfangled Mercedes keys with the elec-
tronics in them, which can be "cloned" by bad guys. I allowed as
how right back at him that since my car was a '91 and didn't have
one of those keys, perhaps we could dispense with the bullshit and
save me a trip out to my car to collect the registration document,
and commence to making me a pisscutting ignition key on the Q.T.
Rules, of course, were rules.
And on top of that, it cost me $25 and took a week to get, the
latter because it came from someplace in Texas. They don't even
make the bloody things on site. (And you had to pay $50? Ouch!)
Why is everything so goddamned complicated anymore?
"I'm sorry, sir, b-but...you can't just..."
"When you pull the pin on Mr. Grenade, he is no longer your friend."
Sounds to me as if you are pissed off at life in general. Would you
rather have just anyone take your key, dupe it, and sell it to just
anyone? "Pssst, wanna buy a nice Mercedes for $500? I need a fix."
Think man, this world isn't the 30's any longer. Read the paper and
you'll see worse things than you being asked for your ID. I'll bet you
don't sign your credit card as, "Reguire photo for ID."
In the '40's I had a paper route in Miami, Florida and often had over
$300 on collection day; that was before anyone paid via credit card or
mail. I'd no longer do that in fear for my life.
Nope. I'm among the most even-tempered people on the face of
Mudda Oit'. I hardly ever get angry, or even significantly
annoyed. That being said, I'm allergic to bullshit and don't
particularly like obstacles thrown into my path. Especially
obstacles that result from arbitrary rules and regulations
that complicate matter unnecessarily.
Er, why would such a person need to duplicate the key in order
to do that? Nobody would buy a key without seeing the car it
was supposed to work in, and probably seeing the key actually
demonstrated before handing over the cash.
You bet wrong. Why would I have complained about being asked
for ID when I Use credit cards if I wrote" "Please check ID"
in the signature fields of my cards?
Hell, I often carry nearly that much in my wallet just as walking-
around money. Never gave it a second thought.
You had a paper route in the '40s, eh? Maybe the difference in
our perception is an age thing. Older people are often downright
paranoid, seeing danger lurking around every corner and underneath
every rock. Maybe they read about this stuff in the AARP magazine;
One time I was using an ATM at my bank in downtown Mountain View,
California -- as safe a medium-sized town as you're likely to find.
As I was finishing up, I semiconsciously noticed something odd going
on, a vaguely-sensed perturbation in the normal rhythym of things
happening around me. In a moment I realized that what I'd (barely)
noticed was that a car had pulled up into the diagonal-parking space
right behind me, but that no one had gotten out.
When I turned around, I saw an old Aspen or Volare nosed up to the
curb. There was an elderly couple sitting in it, and grim-faced,
they were watching me like hawks. They'd obviously come to use the
ATM also, but they weren't going to budge until I'd finished my
business and left the area. Their sense of danger reminded me of
the way deer will warily sniff the air, nostrils flaring, ready to
take off running at an instant's notice.
The odd thing was, I'm a fairly big guy, but being clean-cut, clean-
shaven and decently dressed when I'm out in public, I really don't
think I cut a threatening figure. I sure I don't become afraid of
life itself when I get to be their age...
"Your postings prove the Fourth Stooge Theory" -- Danny Clark
No, they're making sure they only give keys to your car to you.
Used to be, I could order a key to YOUR car via a phone call, email
or a fax. Now you can only get a key from a dealer, in person,
with license and registration to the car you want a key for.
While this will nor prevent all criminals you can't really say
it's a horrible idea!
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The key to my 1987 300E is a blade with four separate "keys" ground out
only partially through. The local locksmith wanted the car there to
test the key on after grinding the four separate "keys" into the four
sides of the blade. If one of the four is not ground deep enough or
ground too deep the key will not work.
Cost was $47 with the locksmith supplying the blank. Of course as soon
as I bought the replacement key the missing one showed up rattling
around in the bottom of the washing machine.
The biggest problem with locksmith keys are you are copying 'worn' keys...
so all the duplicates you got are 'worn' keys...
Unless you happen to have one key not use at all to be used as master... I
just don't see the value with locksmith keys... We had that done once... and
it was not worth it... ignition will work... door will work... but won't
work on trunk. The biggest thing of all? You need to wiggle the key to make
it work every single time!
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