new kia farking ell

Not confidence - desperation.

I like the look (looks a bit punto/stilo), but I want to know how they drive, if they expect it be with me for 7 years.

Mind you, the Magentis is growing on me. Has been for a while.

They're still shit, though.

The whole warranty thing is just a marketing ploy to get people to buy them..... the only people who'll keep a Kia for 7 years are old giffers who drive about 2 miles a week, so they're highly unlikely to have to pay out under warranty.

A bit like a certain company that sells their own badged version of another of the groups car and stuffs it full of toys as well as lowering the price by 25%?

Just so that vertain members of their driver group can stand their with the 25% more expensive version, chest puffed out, pointing and proudly boasting "STD!!".

The whole Skoda vs VAG pricing is a myth, too.

An Octavia has a few extra toys compared with the Passat, but has cheaper trim and isn't *that* much cheaper - however, the depreciation on the Skoda is significantly worse.

If you compare the Octavia with a Jetta, which is about the same size, then there's nothing to pick between them.

Besides, Skodas are for pikeys who can't afford the VW equivalent. Everyone knows that :-P

I'd rather have a Ka. Seriously. With window winders and no Aircon.

Yeah, but the last person who paid for an STD was unlucky enough to get busted for Kerb crawling, that same night.

No it isn't. You pay a grand or so more for something with a VW badge that has less toys than an equivalent use Skoda vehicle. Adding to match specification shows that VW cars are relatively tight, equipment wise.

It has many extra bits and pieces.

The new one? Barely. The current Passat is a disappointment. I prefer the older generation. I suspect you do too.

No, the expected depreciation, artificially inflated by lease companies, shows the Skoda in a poorer light.

Give it a few years and we'll see.

Kia are doing an offer where you get £20 if you test-drive one.

I'm booked to test-drive a Magentis this week!

David

Let me know what you think of it.

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I'd have one of these though:

Marketing spin. They won't have to pay out on a warranty that length any more than they would on a 5 year one.