2011 5L weighs almost 3900lbs

The GT weighs about 3,600. And it'll run 12s in pure stock factory trim.

Patrick

On the other hand, the Ferrari Enzo (using the lightest materials) weighs in at about 3100 lbs, a coincidence? I think not!

And a base Vette, for a fraction of the cost of the Enzo, also weighs

Patrick

And it can't touch the Enzo, Ford is making the best built, and fastest I should say, Ponies right now, and I like em, sans the odd rear-end (tails). There are Miata's and S2000's out there, why not just get one of those? I sure as hell don't want Ford to change the old Stang into something, dare I say, Probish?

how do you get rid of 500 pounds from the 5L ?

If you really want to tear apart a brand new car, it can be done.

Gill wrote in news:i3d5ui$akp$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

So does a Vette.

"Sherman Forte" wrote in news:i3his0$bg4$ snipped-for-privacy@news.albasani.net:

Gee, better engineering? Better use of materials? Why did my '88 LX 5.0 weigh so much less than the new Mustang, and it had a cast iron block and heads?

So why didn't GM make the Camaro like a Vet? You got the money to own a Vet? Or you just trying to stir up shit?

Yes, and was made 22 years ago. Before airbags, before tire pressure indicators, before OBD2, before hundreds of pounds of things required on todays cars. Had a great deal more chasis flex, didn't have a drivetrain that could take 400hp and live up to ford requirements.

Sure there are ways around the weight penalties. The mustang buyer generally can't afford them.

Stir up shit? This is Rich... from Rich, this is as good as it gets...

I'm waiting for "julienne fries should be krinkle cut" and "why is frozen desert frozen?" and "how come Steve McQueen didn't borrow my car... ohhh, it ain't really a Mustang but nobody has ever asked for my credentials".

Rich is a unique person... we wish he wasn't Canadian but he's from Toronto and that makes it sort of expected.

Rich has about as much chance of buying a 2011 as I have of becoming Prime Minister and convincing Obama that he might be better off doing toilet paper commercials.

Rich feels that you should be able to drive just as fast as you can and if you hit someone that didn't see you driving as fast as you possibly can ... THEY are to blame... You were well within your right driving as fast as you possibly can...

When I think of Rich... I have visions of shaken baby syndrome... fetal alcohol syndrome... blunt object trauma... "accidentally" falling on the floor face first.... sibling rivalry.... and so many other modern conditions I can't pretend to understand....

Rich just tries to make unreasonable demands sound a little less unreasonable...

I thjink the internet calls it

Brent wrote in news:i3ifhd$qmr$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

I'd love to see a weight breakdown by part for the Mustang.

"Jim Warman" wrote in news:5r57o.10760$Z6.3616@edtnps82:

You really should be driving a 1995 V-6, being such an old lady Volvo driver.

Ok....... without knowing what you mean... I bought an 05 V6 convertible for my wife to drive.... Is that like a Volvo? I find that it can be a lot of fun to drive.

FWIW, I have a friend with a Viper.... borrowed it a few times. It isn't that much fun to drive since you can get into trouble real fast with it. But it's a lot of fun to drive if you can stay out of trouble...

if you can stay out of trouble.

Modern cars (and trucks) are already using a lot of "tricks" to reduce weight (part of the CAFE deal). These include increasing usage of magnesium (this stuff can get real interesting when you are trapped in a burning car). If the 2011 weighs 3900 pounds... it does that for a reason. I don't know what you drive (a 95 V6?) but i don't think you should bitch too hard about the weight of a new ride if you aren't about to buy one. And if the car weighs too much... buy a car that doesn't weigh so much. If the car is too red... buy one that isn't so red.... if the car is too small - don't buy one that is too small....

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This may appear bottom posted.... it isn't... do not believe your eyes. I top posted it and then moved some bottom shit to the top.