transgo shift kit problems!!

The fact that you had to replace the valve body pretty well tells me that there was either a pre-existing problem with yours, or you did something wrong when installing the kit that Transgo could not *see* over the phone.

I just called my friend who is a Transgo dealer, and he pointed out that the AODE kit is too complicated for the do-it-yourselfer, and indeed says "For Professional Installation Only". He said there are too many ways to mess that up if you do no know exactly what you are doing.

Performance Automatic and Transgo both have long-standing reputations in the business. It does no good to trash a company because of your own lack of experience.

I've had several Transgo shift kits in my cars dating back to the

70's. I put all of them in *except* the one in my '97 Crown Vic (4R70W), which I chose not to do myself. My friend installed that one, and it works great, just like all the prior kits.

If you wonder why I seldom take the side of the consumer in these gripe threads, it's because of my years as a retail businessman. I can't tell you how many times I sold stereo equipment to DIY'ers who thought they knew more than the people making the product. So they screw things up, expect me to take exchange it without question, and re-install it back into the same incorrect situation. After they blow up the amp/head unit/whatever again, then *I'm* the bad guy because I'm selling them junk.

This is not to say there aren't crappy dealers, but I can empathize with ones that have to deal with misguided customers, especially ones that expect top notch troubleshooting over the phone.

If you are out of your league doing something, either pay a pro or don't bitch and complain if it goes bad. Common sense, common sense, common sense.

Perhaps you should tell the whole story the first time around, shit for brains.

Service managers do not work on cars, shit for brains. If it was "installed" 3 separate times, then the wrong person did it. Right, shit for brains? You don't used "professional meachanics"; you use an experienced transmission rebuilder, shit for brains.

"last month WE installed a transgo shift kit in OUR 95 stang." Sound familiar? That means YOU and your SO did your own work. If you can't put together an accurate description of the process, then refrain from complaining when others call you on your multiple mistakes. Shit for brains.

V'ger jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net

1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2 Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior 289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code Dual Exhaust C4 Auto converted to AODE 8" Trak Lok Vintage 40 wheels BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; ) Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations Cool, CA

Yes, CobraJet certainly can spit some venom

(duh-huh, bad joke, couldn't resist ; )

V'ger wrote:

oucheeee!!!! that last month we installed a transgo shift kit into our 95 stang AODE trans.Well after 3 trys and numerous conversations with transgo we shit canned the transgo kit for Performance automatics valve body and to say were singin the praises of PA is an understatement!! The valve body functions perfectly with crisp shifts and no problems!! The valve body from PA was only $230.00. The problem with the transgo kit was stalling upon take off and erractic shifting. transgos solutions were nothing that was mentioned in there instruction manual or video, but there solution was to keep dropping the pan, taking the valve body apart and coming up with all these F_____up solutions to there kit install. Just buyer beware of transgo!!!

Barb The fact that you had to replace the valve body pretty well tells me that there was either a pre-existing problem with yours, or you did something wrong when installing the kit that Transgo could not *see* over the phone.

I just called my friend who is a Transgo dealer, and he pointed out that the AODE kit is too complicated for the do-it-yourselfer, and indeed says "For Professional Installation Only". He said there are too many ways to mess that up if you do no know exactly what you are doing.

Performance Automatic and Transgo both have long-standing reputations in the business. It does no good to trash a company because of your own lack of experience.

I've had several Transgo shift kits in my cars dating back to the

70's. I put all of them in *except* the one in my '97 Crown Vic (4R70W), which I chose not to do myself. My friend installed that one, and it works great, just like all the prior kits.

If you wonder why I seldom take the side of the consumer in these gripe threads, it's because of my years as a retail businessman. I can't tell you how many times I sold stereo equipment to DIY'ers who thought they knew more than the people making the product. So they screw things up, expect me to take exchange it without question, and re-install it back into the same incorrect situation. After they blow up the amp/head unit/whatever again, then *I'm* the bad guy because I'm selling them junk.

This is not to say there aren't crappy dealers, but I can empathize with ones that have to deal with misguided customers, especially ones that expect top notch troubleshooting over the phone.

If you are out of your league doing something, either pay a pro or don't bitch and complain if it goes bad. Common sense, common sense, common sense.

Ya know, everybody that screws up expects everybody else to symapthize with them, as if a flock of sheep inhabits this place. If we were to avoid dealers and products because of unqualified whining from people who add to or change their stories when cornered, there would be no choice but to drive dead stock Saturns and let the dealer babysit them.

The fact is that newer cars are more difficult to work on, and the average owner far less acquainted with wrench-turning or troubleshooting than when you and I were growing up. A couple more years of this and we'll be seeing products that are *supposed to* install themselves.

Anyone that wants to get serious knows where to find me. I'll leave the clubies to their own private hells.

You need to deselect HTML in your news program, 67RMod.

CJ The following quote was NOT, I repeat, NOT directed at you... it was directed the the postee who flamed you... LOL

V'ger jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net

1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2 Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior 289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code Dual Exhaust C4 Auto converted to AODE 8" Trak Lok Vintage 40 wheels BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; ) Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations Cool, CA

lol wtf? Mind his own business? You just posted on a world-wide accessed newsgroup about your experience. That kinda makes it every reader's business. Ah well.

-Mike

-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Full Boar turbo mufflers Hi-speed fan switch

255/60R-15 rear tires

While I admit to never having installed a shift kit (I plan to do my AOD soon), I understand that there are often orifices that need to be enlarged, and others need to be added. If a mistake was made in the valve body the first time, any subsequent attempt would be unsatisfactory. If the AODE needs this type of mod, that may explain the three failed attempts.

John

66 2+2

John your correct about having to enlarge the holes in the plate and this was done correctly. The problems that we had were obviously cross leaking in the valve body and spools that were sticking. We cleaned the valve body thorouly, followed directions to a T and the first instance of failure was that we had not tightened the valve body to 120 inch pounds. No where in the instructions or video did it say to do that as a matter of fact it showed a guy using a speed wrench to tighten the valve body!! Now off comes the pan again, more fluid all over the place, cost of new fluid and we take the valve body out for good measure and reinstall all the spools, clips and check balls. reinstall following transgos inst and same problem! New call to transgo and now were told ford had an improper design and to add an extra bolt to the valve body to compensate for fords design problems with the aode valve body. reinstall and same problems only worse. next call to performance automatic and purchased thier valve body and wala it works perfectly for only 130.oo bucks more hell we spent that on fluid and filters F--- around with the transgo kit. Like i said before and the sole purpose of this post is to warn buyers not to fight with know it all mechanics

I have to agree with CJ, here. *You* are the one who didn't tell the entire story (as well as having the kit installed by the wrong type of professional), and you're calling CJ "shit for brains"? LOL Get a grip, asshole.

See, now you're going back to "we" which would imply you tried to do a self install - instead of having a Ford mechanic do the install, like you said earlier. I smell bullshit

Sounds to me like the professional mechanic was a Ford Service Manager, perhaps a relative or a friend, who did the job in your garage, overconfidently it seems, and with not enough experience and current knowledge regarding Ford electronic overdrive automatic transmissions.

We were very personally involved with this misery, weren't we? I see a lot of personal ownership and references, and not enough blaming of the ones attempting these failed installations.

I'm seeing "oh, let me do it, I can save you x amount of money" and then disaster ensued thrice, didn't it? And all through it you believed every word regarding the shoddy craftsmanship and incomplete information he said, and then you turned to RAMFM in indignance and frustration, didn't you, Clarice? And now you're lashing out in disgust, and further exposing the ugly lies you've put forth; your seething anger toward CobraJet betraying you

You fly away now, little starl>

V'ger jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net

1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2 Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior 289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code Dual Exhaust C4 Auto converted to AODE 8" Trak Lok Vintage 40 wheels BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; ) Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations Cool, CA

Hey Barb, learn the proper use of the caps key, you illiterate wench.