Quattro system is superior to X-Drive. BMW is pretentious and overpriced, Audi
has better interior to boot. BMW's performance is slightly better but you
aren't racing, right? Get the A4. I'd also suggest the AWD Infiniti G35.
Mercedes Benz isn't what it used to be but the cars are still solid. In fact,
IMHO, MB is the only company who's cars interior quality can match or best the
Audi models. We test drove the ML-series SUV twice, once in late 2000 before my
mother got her RX300 and again a few weeks ago before she got her new Touraeg.
The exterior styling leaves a *lot* to be desired but the interior is extremely
nice and well put togethor.
The ML is the worst piece of trash that Mercedes has ever sold (in America).
If you thought that was anywhere near nice and/or well put together, you'd
love a vintage 1980s Jeep. Seriously, that thing is a tremendous step down
for MB, and they've been somewhat practiced at stepping down build quality
and reliability for the last 10 years.
Check out a 1994 vintage W124 E-class or an even older W126 S-class. You
will find many examples of those 10+ year old cars with fewer rattles,
tighter exterior panel fit, and better internal fit and finish than a new ML
that just rolled off the assembly line.
On 12/8/04 10:42 PM, in article
email@example.com, "Steve Grauman"
The interior quality of the ML was at least as good or better than the Acura
MDX and Lexus RX 330, neither of which are horrible by any degree. It was fit
well and looked good, although not as good as previous Mercedes.
My Grandfather owned a 1979 S-Class Diesel sedan and a 1991 560 SEC coupe that
he kept as "side" vehicles till just last year. Both were extremely well put
togethor, but the 1998 SL500 and 2004 E500 he has at the moment aren't bad
either. I'm waiting for a new Sl to replace the 98'.
We'll just have to respectfully disagree on this one. I find both the
interior and exterior fit, finish, and feel of the ML to be appallingly
cheap and lacking in the "traditional" (but becoming less traditional with
each passing model) Mercedes quality. I have no experience with the Lexus
or the Acura, so I don't know if they are terrible as well.
The last body SL was the last well built MB IMHO, and it was magnificent.
While the new car is a far superior sports car, its build quality doesn't
match up. And as for the W211, I love the way it looks, and considered
replacing my wife's W124 wagon with one, until I spotted the consistently
inconsistent panel to light cluster gaps on every W211 I observed up close.
That's just plain unacceptable for cars this expensive. Look at what Audi's
doing these days. There's just no excuse for cheap plastics and big
inconsistent panel gaps in a "luxury" car. It's sad, but I think I know own
my last two MBs.
The IS 300 is too small, no ski sack, flip/fold down seats, FWD...
shall I go on? Get the Corolla XRS for 1/2 the price if you are stuck
on a small car.
BMWs though nice are too common and option up real pretty like. Go to
the Audi page and option up an A4 and then try it with BMW. You will
spend ~ $8K more for the BMW. And look like every other mook on the
road with a 3 series.
The G35 is pretty OK, my second choice. Distant 2nd. What Nissan is
doing with the G35 is pumping up the HP in lieu of other useful things
like how the rear seat functions, fit and finish and so on. The extra
HP instead of useful things is something I would expect from the US
car assemblers. More HP = more fuel consumption. Do you need 250 HP to
toodle around at 50 km/hr? I don't and chose the A4 1.8 q.
The IS is RWD, and psosts higher skidpad numbers than a 330i, althog the 330
may turn that around if optioned with the Sport Pacakge that also ups
The Corolla uses the 1.8 litre 180Hp motor from the Celica GT-S. Very fun at
high revvs but practically useless torque below 4500 RPM and it still feels
like an econobox inside. Frankly, even Nissan's Sentra SE-R VSpec is more
attractive to me than the XRS. It's got better low-end power from the 2.5 litre
motor and can be had with Brembo brakes. Of course, for the money, I'll take a
Jetta GLS 1.8T over any of those.
My local dealer sells Audi, Porsche and BMW. I went with my mother several
weeks ago to test drive a Cayenne S and to show her the A6 Avant. When we went
to the BMW side to look at the X3 and X5 we noticed a fully optioned 330i with
a $45,600 sticker. You've GOT to be kidding me. I'll take an S4 thanks.
The G35 is the best deal to come out of Nissan Motors in years. For $35,000 you
can have a fully loaded, 260 horsepower sedan with Navigation, leather, premium
sound, and a low 6-second 0-60 time. Not to mention that it can match or beat a
330 on the track. It's interior quality cannot quite match the A4's but it's
certainly as nice as the BMW's, which I think is over-rated. There's also
(apparently) huge discounts being given on the M45 which I think is a neat car,
but some people really dislike the exterior styling, and it's normal price of
around $50k is to high by any standard.
Well there's a little more to buying than that. If all you need is basic A to B
transportation from a car that's capable of 65 MPH highway speeds than a
$12,000 Kia will do it.
I test drove a 3 with my brother, nice little car. For around $23k you can get
leather seats, navigation with premium sound, the bigger engine, etc...it's a
hell of a deal. I'd probably think about one to replace my GTI if I wasn't dead
set on waiting another year to year and 1/2 for either an MKV S3 or a BMW
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