I was being facetious about the Volvo. The S40 is a tarted up Mazda 3
with a bigger marketing budget, nothing more. And Ford quality to
boot. Volvo is not anywhere near where it was nor where it thinks it
is. When i went to kick tires at the local Volvo shop the guy said the
S60 was = to an A8. I guess he had never seen an A8. The S60 on a good
day is an A6 stripper.
Well, that us kinda my point: re-use, recycle, refurbish and
re-market. If I want a Mazda 3 I will buy one.
I appreciate the economic necessity to re-use various bits of h/w by
car assemblers and lord knows, there is a bit in my B6 A4 that started
as a VW product (mostly in the engine, I believe) but if this keeps on
going there will be five car assemblers with four models each. I can
hardly wait. By then at least my license will be revoked due to age (I
am thinking of a few decades in the future).
One item of note: when I was looking at the G35X in the spring the
sales guy sales: all Nissan parts. So why would I buy a G35X if I can
get a Maxima (RWD) for a bunch less? To me, he made a mistake. The
Audi sales guy made a point of saying: all Audi, not VW parts. I
didn't want to task him on the engine. I just had to let that one go.
Audi/VW do this quite a bit. The Golf, Jetta, New Beetle, TT and A3 are all on
the same platform. The B5 A4 and B5/5.5 Passat were on the same platform and
shared *2* engines, the 1.8T and 2.8 V6. Not to mention that Seat and Skoda
models are really just VWs with new badging. The 4.2 litre V8 is used by Audi
in the A8, A6, S4 and Allroad and by VW in the Toureag and Pheaton. The 2.7T
started in the B5 S4 and ended up in the (outgoing) A6 and Allroad.
The Maxima is FWD, actually and the G35 is built on the Altima's platform, not
the Maxima's. Plus the G35 is nicer inside and (oddly) more reasonablly priced
for what you get. The G35 is getting a new interior for 2006 models, looks
Sure, if you forget about the bigger, better engines (especially the T5), the
avaliablility if AWD on the S40 or the much nicer interior the Volvo enjoys.
Well, I'd mostly agree with that. I know that the C70 and S80 have both been
extremely problematic vehicles. However, the S60, which was the first Volvo
sedan designed under Ford, is in fact the most reliable car/wagon they've built
in several years - the S40 notwisthsatdning because it's so new and the XC90
because it's....not a car, well, not entirely a car, it is S80 based.
They'll make all kinds of bullshit claims to sell their cars. The local BMW
dealer swears his cars are superior to Porsches and that the "toyish" X3 is
superior to the Touraeg.
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
On 08 Dec 2004 21:35:52 GMT, email@example.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
Apparently Subaru's have a very good reputation for snow and ice conditions as
well. Again I prefer the A4's interior but I think the Legacy/Outback with the
250Hp 2.5 litre turbo motor might be worth a look - just in case.
To be honest, I know nothing about BMW, but would warn you off the A4 based
solely on my experience of Audi's customer service. Audi's are great, until
they break - then you are truely ***ed. I'd had mine 3 weeks, had a problem
and was made to feel like a piece of **** when taking it back. Dealer would
not even acknowledge the fault and 'threatened' that I'd need to see the
area Audi rep before they would consider addressing the fault.
Note I'm still an Audi owner, but only for another week or so (a year was
long enough). Go figure - and IMHO go elsewhere.
I'm not trolling. My A4 is the best vehicle I've ever had period; ****ing
fantasic car. My local service is the worst I've ever had and it's a bad
combination and that's why I'm off. I've also read about superb Audi
customer service, so perhaps you need to flag down some local Audi drivers.
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