So I'm thinking of selling the ol' A4- it's a 2000 A4 1.8T Quattro with
105k miles. I love the car but maintenance is becoming a major drain on
my bank account. I'm asking for advice on the selling of it. The check
engine light just came on and the Autuzone scanner tells me it's a Fuel
Air Metering problem (my guess is Mass Air Flow sensor). There is a
pecular soft grinding noise coming from the front right which COULD be
grit in the cv joint working away at it (the boot was cracked but
replaced- it's an odd noise and doesn't happen ALL the time- anyone
ever experienced?). The bumper has been pulled too many times due to
that damn low-hanging bumper and so part of it is a little askew,
although I may be able to shore it up with some good old fashion
screws. The air conditioning unit stays on all the time due to what I
assume is water getting in there from the cup holder above the unit- it
stays on 72 degrees year-round which is actually just about perfect.
There are several dings and scratches- I'd rate the body (other than
the bumper) as fair. I'd really like to get the greatest return on my
investment so the question I'd ask is should I fix any of this? Or
should I just put it out on eBay, Craigslist and/or the paper, tell
them what's wrong with it, and see what I can get? Any thoughts on
what I should ask for an audi in that condition? Blue book trade in for
a fair condition audi is 5,200, private party is 7,500- is it
reasonable to hope for $6k?
Thanks very much in advance,
With the CEL you have, just a guess but check the hose that goes to the top
of the engine at the front, you cant miss it when you open the bonnet (hood)
it is a small rubber tube that is surround with what looks like material,
check if it is split, a good sign is if you have black oily residue on the
underside of the hood.
If it is, just trim it back a bit and put it back on, reset the cel and job
On 7 Aug 2006 10:37:47 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
What is your definition of "a major drain on my bank account" in
actual dollars on an annual basis? I ask because I have decided to
keep my 98.5 A4 2.8Q because it so far has cost me less than $2,000 a
year to keep running (the car has been paid off since I bought it at
31,700 miles in May 2001), and it just rolled over 100,000 miles last
week. There is no way in hell I could ever have such a nice car for
less than $167 a month (excluding gas, of course), and the car has
never stranded me.
I just replaced the timing system, water pump, both front cv joints,
the rear brake pads and rotors and including the rental car I had to
rent for the three weeks it took the local german car mechanic to get
done with all of this (New Orleans is not a good place for mechanics
right now) it cost me just shy of 4000 dollars. I'm not going to do
any more such repairs (I'm thinking here of the weird sound coming from
my front end and the check engine light it will take me at least a week
at the mechanic to get diagnosed) on my nice car (and it is a very nice
car, I'm not arguing that) but I don't need such a nice car. I can't
afford to fix such a nice car. So all I'm askin' is how much I can
sell my nice car for to recoup some of what I spent.
you'd have to do on any car. The bumper thing is a crack-up - how
about not "parking by feel"? The CEL could be a very simple fix. Or
it could be the MAF. How do you know?
So, let's think a little - you spent 4k. You might get back 6k.
(Nobody in their right mind is going to spend even low blue book on a
car with a CEL going.) That's 2k you've got left.
That's going to buy you what kind of non-maintenance-requiring car?
The CV joint is another $400 (just a rough guess) and the MAF (maybe)
is another $400.
The climate control - wooo-eee! Why in hell do you 'tards need a drink
in your hands at all times? Why is it that I can spend 350 miles on
the road straight with the need for a SuperTanker Slurpee?
I'm beginning to get the picture. It's not a bad car, you're just a
crappy owner. *No* car is going to act nicely for you - that's a
500k miles of Audis.
What a delightful posting style you have- I imagine not a lot of those
500K audi miles were spent visiting friends (Audi owner club meetings
If I kept the drinks in my HANDS I wouldn't have the climate control
problem I have. I guess I'm the kind of " 'tard " that puts a cup in a
cupholder. Your need to not have a drink for 350 straight miles is
laudable, but kind of beside the point.
And if I drove by feel I'd probably stop when the WHEELS hit the curb
as the bumper glides quite smoothly over the concrete only to dig in
when trying to reverse. I certainly feel stupid every time it happens,
but thanks for the anonymous internet dig.
While the quality of the ownership of my car is certainly debatable,
that's not really the issue. The issue is that in order to fix anything
on my nice car (nowhere did I state that it's a crappy car) is that I
have to travel a long way to a mechanic who is so understaffed that he
keeps it for an inordinately long time whereas if I pick up a cheap
used import I can drop it off at anyone from a friend with a car lift
to a certified mechanic who will work on it for probably half of the
labor rate of the german mechanic. I realize that it's not quite the
quality and style of car that I was accustomed to but that bitch
Katrina left me on much shiftier financial footing than I was on before
so adjustments must be made.
But thanks for your kind consideration.
Hey, you wanted opinions, you got some. I apologize for not kissing
Actually, it isn't. I have no idea why people feel the need to drink
while they are driving. I doubt anyone is going to die of thirst in
whatever short drive they have somewhere in an air conditioned vehicle.
Couple that with the obviously dumb location of that flimsy cupholder,
and, well, the mind boggles. But, to the point, your excessive
thirst-while-driving probably cost you $500 of value. If you're honest
with the purchaser.
LOL. That's my name up there, Uber. Oh, is that your first name, Mr.
Here's a clue - don't pull up on those parking curbs or sidewalks.
After the first time, it should have been a clue. Afterwards, well, I
leave you to draw your own conclusions.
It is the *only* issue. Owners who are neglectful, sloppy or careless
drive a vehicle's value way down. You gripe about regular maintenance
items and stuff you caused by carelessness, as if somehow that
mitigates the loss of value that you yourself caused. The CEL is the
only issue that outstanding. It might be simple. Or it might be
expensive. Tough call. But the value of the car is WAY down if it's
got an orange CEL while the poor sucker who you're trying to sell this
car to is staring him/her right in the face the whole test drive.
And who knows how long the CV boot was ripped? 5k miles? 10k? Do
you inspect them every oil change? Even if you do your own work, CVs
are a PITA, and a little look-n-feel saves a lot of money and hassle.
BTW, they exist on all cars nowadays (just about). Learn how to
examine them, or you'll be in for a CV repair with your next POS.
No, *I* called it a crappy car. It's crappy because you made it that
way. Face reality, here, Uber - financially, you're going from a car
that's almost completely fixed, and where the issues are known, to car
that you absolutely nothing about. Where the seller might be a total
liar. And getting a lot less for your car than it would be normally
worth, because it does have issues, and you're going to share them with
the prospective buyer. You're getting screwed in both orifices,
instead of just one.
These two posts are a reality check, not a glee club meeting. If you
don't agree with my assessment, fine. But I'm not sugar-coating the
reality to make you feel better.
But hey, that injured/defensive thing is working for you.
I sold my 5 year-old, 60K Audi A4 2 years ago. Basically, it wasn't
worth much. I also belatedly found that fixing it up (new brakes,
oil/filter/fluid changes) adds nothing to the resale value. As long as
the exterior is pristine, nobody cares if the car had been driven as if
by the proverbial li'l ol' lady.
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