As expensive as BMWs are, the tool kit is both sparse and not of the
quality Americans have been led to expect. Most people who can afford a
BMW buy Snap-On, and what comes in the BMW kit is not Snap-On quality.
I have owned German tools-Hazet and Stahlwille- and while I've never
broken one, I don't think the BMW tools are made out of the same stuff
Stahlwille are, and are even more crudely finished. The screwdriver in
particular has a cheesy handle and isn't that tough.
Yes, I know, American cars don't even HAVE a tool kit. But Americans
already have tools. I have doubles and triples and quadruples of a lot
of things, from habitual buying over decades.
Those tools are really only intended for use in an emergency situation,
when caught out roadside. They are not intended to be used to make
routine repairs, etc. The reason you pay more for your tools at home is
so they will last with repeat use.
In my opinion, spending Snap-On dollars for the tools in your trunk kit,
that you will in all likelihood never even use, would be overkill.
But some people have much more money that me...
Please. 99% of the Americans who buy BMWs have never even heard of Snap-on.
Probably only half of them have heard of Craftsman tools. And the other half has
never even opened up their toolkit (if they know where it's located).
might depend on the model. Seven's have quite a decent kit.
most BMW mechanics buy Snap On (or similar quality) for daily heavy use.
Such tools cost 3 -4 times what they do from DIY places and several times
more than el cheapo tools from Asia. Snap On come with a life time
guarantee, so if you break or wear out the ratchet in your socket set they
will give you a new one.
These tools are intended for occaisional use - e.g. replacing a snapped belt
during a holiday, and are perfectly servicable for that. The screwdriver in
particular is reversible (slot / cross head), something you would never have
in a professional kit.
As you say Americans have double, triple and quadruple [portions] of a lot
of things, which is why most of them can't work on their own cars...
"If you can finish our 72oz [2kg] steak then there will be no charge..."
typical diner offer.
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:04:08 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
I've been in the US for 20 years and travelled more of it than most
merkins have. Although I believe that such "eat it all and it's free"
offers exist, I've never actually seen one myself.
From what I read in the news, it looks like the average Brit is
ballooning into obesity these days as well. All-you-can-eat fried
Mars bars and chips, anyone?
I keep a 4 in 1 and a 1/4 hex bit ratchet and a small block of bits
and in fact most pros do too-they augment them with the power driver,
It's very atypical. There are probably not five or six places in
America that do that, the most famous is in Amarillo, TX out by the
nuke weapons plant. (Do they have a fish and chips place near
Aldermaston that does a similar thing?) For one thing the liability is
substantial if a diner kills themselves (has happened), also, even here
most people find it gross.
The winners are usually not fat people, surprisingly enough.
When I was a kid I used to hang out at a VW repair place that had a
guy who worked there who was 6'7" and weigned, probably, 450 lbs. It
was always an amazing thing to watch him get in and out of Bugs and
Karmann Ghias. He had many special tools to get in where he could not
reach and was amazing for his standard procedure of pulling the engine
to do a tune up. He summarily replaced a lot of hoses and clamps but
still made money- he could do one in an hour, flat.
He could pick up a Type 1 engine one handed.
His piece de resistance was a motorcycle with a 160 cubic inch flat
twin built from an 0-320 Lycoming sawed in half. He died shortly after
building it, as a result of health problems unrelated to the minor
crash he had on it, and no one else had any interest in it. They would
have had to have been well over 6' to ride it safely. It was junked.
Well I have had several BMWs and have a very extensive tool kit collected
over the years and wouldn't dream of buying Snap-on. In the UK it is
overpriced and over hyped.
The BMW tool kit is fine for what it is intended - the very rare roadside
repair. Supplying the finest quality tools would simply add to the price
of the car - which 99.9% of owners wouldn't ever get the benefit of. The
only part of the car toolkit I use is the anti-theft wheel bolt adaptor -
and that's of sufficient quality for the job.
*What do little birdies see when they get knocked unconscious? *
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
That's so in the US too, but, silly me, I buy them anyway.
In the US the BMW is priced high on pure exclusiveness, are they
radically cheaper in the UK or Germany? I know Benzes were a lot
cheaper in Germany but they had far less optional equipment too, if you
got them kitted out equivalently they were cheaper but not radically
The UK/European equivalents of our BMWs are much more expensive
over there than in the US.
"Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car;
most people will settle for the car." Chris Titus
2003 BMW 325i Black/Black, 2003 BMW Z4 Black/Black
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