in all my 70's celicas i had, i used to blast through floods, hell the water
was higher than my car with the spash...theres a couple of road sin
Sheffield that always flood, ones under a bridge in a dip, i always went
through it, the other cars had to goto the middle of the road slow, and
still conk out, i used to just keep going, only problem i had, was the force
on the streering wheel, or if i forgot to shut the window...
For future reference, sucking water into the motor can be fatal for the
motor. This is not something that is new. The term of this is hydrolock.
Water does not compress as the piston rises, the resulting solid block that
forms between the top of the piston and the bottom of the cylinder head can
cause any number of horrible things to happen. Typically, a connecting rod
When you drive into water and make a splash that washes over the hood, there
is an air pocket around the engine intake, but if the water is deep enough,
when the pocket collapses water can get sucked into the motor. If the motor
is spinning slowly at that point, it may only stall out due to the intrusion
of water, but if the motor is cranking at a high speed then the solid block
of water will do serious damage. It you are lucky, the distributor gets wet
and stalls the motor before any serious damage can result. Of course, at
that point water is high enough to seep in around the doors and soak the
carpets, but that can be dried.
yeah, the air intake on the old celcia's was a tiny hole, on a long
neck.....of course when i was young i didnt think of the outcome, just
laughing at the other cars....guess i was lucky though
I am absolutely amazed at how stupidity gets so much play these days. I
remember when someone would just say "dumbass" and the subject was dropped.
This thread has taken on a life of it's own. Almost "troll-like".
Bill in Omaha
Congratulations, your stupidity has killed a car. Replace it with
something cheaper until you learn your lesson...
Water does not compress. You can put it under pressure, but you
can't compress it. What has happened to your engine is a result of
attempting to do so. At least you have now had the opportunity to
Take any science classes in school?
You're giving poeple WAY too much credit. Never underestimate the
power of stupid people in large numbers...
The older cars suffered from cracked exhaust manifold and sometimes
even engine blocks as the hot CAST IRON parts were cooled rapidly by
You're lucky they're paying anything...
So it's all one big conspiracy? Are you kidding? If it were really
that big of a problem, don't you think there would be a public outcry
or something? Not in thier best interest? If the cars they built were
widely known to have major faults, do you think they'd be selling many
See the text inserted above and maybe you'll get a grip on what
happened. If not, I'm not sure what to tell you other than to buy a
bicycle. They'll go through as much water as you want to pedal through
(although you might want to repack the bearings afterwards to avoid
having to point the finger at the bicycle manufacturer later down the
road). In case you are wondering why, the bearings will eventually
rust due to the excess moisture trapped in the bearing cavity. I doubt
you're going to find anyone that is going to side with you on this.
Good luck however...
I dont know if most of you taking this seriously in the write context. I
have worked on engines since I was a boy and my Dad has been an Engineer
within the car industry for 40 years and this problem can be prevented by
sensors that can cause engine shut down. The fact you are talking as if
this was done on purpose? In England floods are an every month occurance
and I have been through hundreds of floods in my time some a lot deeper
than this one was. So the manufactures have a responsability to point out
the dangers in their handbook but they dont why?
Just how do you shut down a rotating engine instantly? You could, I
suppose, fit a valve on the intake to prevent water ingress as they do on
some severe off road vehicles, but you've got a car, haven't you?
Since you and your dad appear to be such experts, why didn't you notice
the position of the air intake?
*A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
So why does Smith & Wesson put a warning notice on their gun boxes and
instruction saying "Guns can Kill do not point a loaded weapon at anything you
do not wish to be destroyed." (or something very similar as I haven't seen one
for about 10 years now)
Because a judge made them do it. You can be sure that they know guns can
kill, and they expect their customers to know that. But, they are warning
against the dangers of a gun, not the dangers of taking a car swimming when
swimming is not something that cars are built and bred to do.
Gun makers are not protecting you from yourself, they are protecting me from
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