Re: Hybrid Lovers Read This and Lament

Cause they make more selling the $50,000 cars with all sorts of useless gadgets. You think they sell AC and CD players and electric seats at cost??

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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
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Yep. One of the very first publicity photos was of a 1954 turbine-equipped car running with a gentleman's hand placed about six inches from the tailpipe.

This "melted asphalt" problem exists only in your head (and possibly in the typewriters of certain ignorant motoring press yuk-yuks)

Where DOES that piston-engine heat go?

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Daniel J. Stern

What would you expect form a guy that says Mrs. Bush murder someone? LOL

mike

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Mike Hunter

What would you expect form a guy that says Mrs. Bush murder someone? LOL

mike

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Mike Hunter

Out the tailpipe, but don't confuse "heat" with "temperature."

Suppose you have a piston engine and a gas turbine engine that both put out the same amount of power and are the same efficiency. That implies that they both have to shed exactly the same amount of waste heat energy. For the piston engine, much of the waste heat goes out the radiator, a little bit out the oil pan, and a fair amount out the exhaust pipe. OK, for the turbine almost all of it goes out the tailpipe because there IS no radiator. But the exhaust isn't any hotter, because the turbine pumps so much excess air through its exhaust. IOW, it puts out a much bigger volume of exhaust (much of it just hot air) than does the gasoline engine, so the heat energy flow down the exhaust pipe is greater but the exhaust gas temperature is about the same.

Remember, heat energy flow is proportional to temperature x volume. Make the volume big enough and the temperature can be the same (or lower) for a larger total heat flow.

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Steve

Have a good weekend at the bath house, pud licker?

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ILoveMySUV.dwpj65

I hope you are you putting away some money to replace the battery pack a some point. Current cost of the Escape battery pack is over $7,000 ;)

mike

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Mike Hunter

But then they wouldn't be able to pay the salaries of those socialist UAW members, would they?

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Xeton2001IsAMoron.20.dwpj65

Last time this came up, I asked what the list price was at the Ford dealer for the standard 12v battery.

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dold

Also the NiMh traction batteries

======= I never knew that the Prius ran on AA NiMh batteries.

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X-rated Vermonter

Thank you for addressing the issue.

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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

I change the oil every 1500 miles and grease the front end every 1000. And i change the air filter and plugs and rotor/cap every 10k or so. That's what i'm talking about. My present vehicle has 190K on it and is as happy as a republican at a bathhouse.

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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

I'm not talking about getting rid of steel just getting rid of all the useless expensive gadgets. Forget the AC, PS, PB, electric seats and windows. Leave out the radio-CD player and garbage like the trunk light and the notorious windshield washer fluid guage.

Cars could be so much simpler than they are and they would cost much less and with fewer problems. But GM Ford, toyota and honda work together as a monopoly to give us this overpriced junk.

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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

Ever hear of proofreading??

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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

Because they are too saddled with pension and health care obligations thanks to Organized Labor.

Don't forget the most useless gadgets of all: alarm systems...

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Scott en Aztlán

Just waiting for you to address it, h*mo.

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c-bee1_likes_its_fudge_packed.dwpj65

Just maintaining your low standards, s**en slurper.

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c-bee1_likes_its_fudge_packed.dwpj65

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, was motivated to say this in rec.autos.driving on Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:43:52 GMT:

How's that emergency brake doing, psycho??

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necromancer

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, was motivated to say this in rec.autos.driving on Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:49:23 GMT:

and emergency brakes and tires with thread....

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necromancer

IOW a turbine is much like Stern.....

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Bob

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